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Turkey rejects claim Lord Elgin had permission to take Parthenon marbles (www.theguardian.com)

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Official says no sign of permit in Ottoman archives, in blow to British Museum, which defends legal right to statuary

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Who's to say they didn't steal the British Isles too? Londonium belongs to Rome! Or maybe the Celts have a better claim.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well sure keep thinking that. The point is that the artefacts found in the brittish isles make sense to be in the brittish museum which ks located on those isles.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Nobody is thinking that, which is approximately the point. Mostly I just derive a wry amusement from watching the descendants of long-obsolete empires squabble over the creations of their distant ancestors.

Greece making the case that what Turkey has to say about it is of prime importance (if the impression one gets from the Guardian is accurate) seems especially ironic.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean I see their point though. The statues were taken from their original spot in the time that area was under Ottoman rule. If there are no records of the ottomans letting them take these statues (their claim to them not really being relevant here) it clearly shows that they were taken without permission (stolen). The question of the turks claiming these statues as their own does not really matter in this case. At least that is how I see it.

[–] shottymcb@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

So the people who live on the land that a long defunct empire who conquered the land the statues were on get to decide where they artifacts of an even longer defunct empire belong vs the other people who live in a long defunct empire who also conquered the land.

Makes total sense. Especially since the sincerely held religious beliefs of long defunct empire #1 would prefer them to be ground into dust.