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Are lots of websites really going downhill and/or closing or does it just seem like it to me? (kbin.social)

submitted 1 year ago by Catch42@kbin.social to c/tech@kbin.social

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Like many people I'm here because of reddit going to shit. Twitter has increasingly been shit. gycat is shutting down in September. To me it seems like lots of bastions of social media are crumpling, but as a previous active reddit user, I've been personally effected. Is this just a frequency illusion or has something changed in the world that has changed the business case of these sites?

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[–] nothingcorporate@kbin.social 68 points 1 year ago (16 children)

This is the enshittification of the Internet. Cory Doctorow wrote about it here: https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys and it explains why this was always going to happen.

[–] Maxcoffee@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Interesting read.

The likes of Spez were just not that intelligent enough to figure out how to make Reddit pay before the VCs called in the investments. Not that it's an easy problem to solve, but if you're going to take on money like Reddit did you sure as hell needed a better plan then leaving it up to later to figure out. Amazon had a plan clearly, Reddit did not.

Also, what Reddit is now doing mimics a little of what Facebook did too, the enshitification of your feeds (just look at the app). They're just hoping Reddit is as addictive as Facebook is and you'll stick around regardless. I wonder if they recent;y hired some new advisers that told them to make these recent changes too?

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Here's the play, charge a reasonable amount for API calls and people will either pay with money or with data, some will even do both.

Instead you and I are having this conversation on kbin.

After the way shithead acted and talked, well I waste less time on the internet, and yeah, it's a little harder to find results on google, but that is just making me realize how much I relied on Reddit.

I need to find another search engine too, I rely too much on too few providers.

They got us one convenience at a time.

[–] jibbist@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

It's a failure of a business mind all of this.

Failure to understand the users
Failure to realise who actually makes and owns the content
Failure to control costs
Failure to adapt and change how they charge
Failure to use the community to improve the product

I had a reddit account for 16 years, and as soon as Apollo stopped working a few days ago, I logged out everywhere and not going back

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