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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago (6 children)

All Androids since 9 at least have been encrypted by default as long as you have a lock screen enabled. Doesn't matter if its cheap, it is there.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

All Android phones have Google malware installed by default, as system apps, which means those apps can do whatever they want.

So every piece of data you put on there is possibly tracked and collected.

Then there are 2 more problems

  • the software is proprietary and cannot be externally wiped clean
  • the software is outdated

This makes it vulnerable to Pegasus attacks and others. There are tons of secure practices to avoid getting it, like LTE-only, HTTPS only, encrypted and trustworthy DNS, sandboxed processes, blocked javascript execution from unknown websites...

But still if the phone is outdated there are unpatched and publicly known security issues. Just spamming them at all phones is likely to succeed as so many people run vulnerable versions, as vendors suck.

Then if you have pegasus, the only way for security is to reflash the A/B partitions, both. Factory reset is not secure as it will keep what is already in the system partitions.

The firmware is protected and signed by the vendors, so it is likely clean.

But Pegasus installs itself to the phone storage.

If you A cant obtain factory images or B cant flash the phone at all, you cannot wipe it clean.

So a good activism phone needs

  • trustworthy and minimal system apps / stock software
  • modern software updates
  • possible to reflash whole device externally
  • nice to have: ability to verify checksum of system partition, like GrapheneOS Attestation

This makes them poorly pretty expensive. I think a slightly outdated GrapheneOS phone is okay though.

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Then get a burner pixel 3a and install grapheneOS or DivestOS

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think 3a is already too old. I think 4a is a better minimum, but this is still insecure of course.

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago

Yes I know, and I want to try DivestOS one time. But they do incomplete patches.

They cannot update the kernel themselves or even worse the firmware. The kernel needs to be built and patched for the specific hardware, GrapheneOS relies completely on Google here. And the firmware needs to be signed by the vendors, so no chance either.

And especially baseband, cellular stuff has extremely many vulnerabilities in the code.

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