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[–] mojo_raisin@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

It's not possible to produce the amount of meat needed to feed our massive population while treating animals humanely.

There are really two options to deal with this:

  1. Most humans in the world become vegan -- sounds great but it's not gonna happen

  2. Reduce our population to sustainable numbers (by eliminating the driver of the population explosion, i.e. fossil energy) -- maybe also not gonna happen

Edit: What (do I think) will happen? We'll continue as we are now as hundreds of billions of animals are tortured until our civilization collapses. This will happen because we were all brought up under a state and told that defending ourselves, our communities, our animals, is wrong and illegal.

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

False dichotomy here. Americans could certainly reduce their intake of meat without going full vegan. Regulations could be created to treat livestock more humanely without completely eliminating factory farming, which yes would increase prices, which would probably also reduce meat consumption somewhat. Also population growth within the US has dropped off quite a bit and is projected to further decline.

[–] mojo_raisin@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

You're right, to some insufficient degree, but that's like reducing your meth habit.

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Humans can be made began if say, meat production was banned. How far we are willing to go to save ourselves from ecological disaster is a matter of choice