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[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

If humans would treat nature and themself better we wouldn't need any "beauty" products or even any medication in the first place. Just to artificially look "better" or live longer?

Everything that happens to us, is because our own selfishness ego to think we are the "alpha" product who owns everything, while we are just dumpshit animals with no respect for nothing.

You wan't to test some product? Go test it on criminals and leave those poor animals alone. But no, testing on non volunteer human is not ethical correct??

Oh yeah that's where we draw the line.

[–] Turun@feddit.de 1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Assuming a young adult develops, idk breast cancer or something. Your sister or your daughter or you maybe. Should we treat it?
If we don't they'll die.
But careful, it will cost a hundred rats and a few rabbits their lives.

[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I will just answer that question even though it doesn't make sense because we are in this shit together...

We wouldn't have to treat cancer if we haven't been so stupid in the past... Back to the roots with less plutonium, uranium, 4G, 5G, wifi 4,5,6, processed food, poluted water... You name it !

Maybe it's time to find a solution for the root cause and not a solution for the symptoms...

That's the difference !

[–] Turun@feddit.de 1 points 4 months ago

Reducing carcinogens would reduce the cancer rate a bit. Banning smoking completely would probably be the best first step. But most of the items on your list are either already heavily regulated (radioactive elements, food and water) or don't actually have any impact on cancer rates (the list of radio spectrum parts)

Also you're lying to yourself if you truly think that getting rid of modern advances all together would eliminate cancer. Cells sometimes mutate when dividing and in a fraction of those cases it leads to cancer. That's life. There will always be a chance of that.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

If humans would treat nature and themself better we wouldn't need any "beauty" products or even any medication in the first place.

How?

Just to artificially look "better" or live longer?

Vanity is a flaw, I agree. Age is not something to be ashamed of.

Everything that happens to us, is because our own selfishness ego to think we are the "alpha" product who owns everything, while we are just dumpshit animals with no respect for nothing.

Hubris is to blame for many mistakes people do but no animal or living being has respect for anything else besides the immediate survival. Animals will destroy others habitats, food, brood, etc, because the others impede their way.

You wan't to test some product? Go test it on criminals or orther deranged humans and leave those poor animals alone. But no, testing on non volunteer human is not ethical correct??

Why criminals? Why not simply use any individual. If consent is the crux of the matter, let's go that way full force.

Oh yeah that's were we draw the line.

Yes. It's called self preservation. All life is to be protected until there is no other option than to end it and carry the burden for such choice. We don't live in Dante's Inferno.