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There are a lot of tanky posts coming from lemmy.ml. Their whole purpose seems to be to troll and spread their bullshit far and wide. They are nearly as bad as the alt-right. They argue in bad faith and celebrate authoritarian oppression. The beehaw mods might want to consider defederating.

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[–] Fapper_McFapper@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Yeah, I’m tired of seeing their posts. I’m on lemm.ee and I’m considering leaving the fediverse altogether. I exclusively use Lemmy on mobile and I can’t find a way to block certain users or entire instances.

I won’t name any offenders since that seems to be an instant comment deletion from the mods but it’s always the same ones. Maybe I’ve missed a setting but there should at least be a way to block users. Maybe someone smarter than I can point me in the right direction.

[–] eveninghere@beehaw.org 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Come over here to beehaw.org. We have nice admins.

[–] Fapper_McFapper@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think I’m going to take you up on that offer. Thank you for the suggestion.

[–] Truck_kun@beehaw.org 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I saw your post that you downloaded Voyager.

I love Voyager, but if you already haven't noticed, Voyager stopped supporting the version of Lemmy that beehaw uses. If you intend to stay on Lemmy, and/or use Voyager, then beehaw probably isn't the best choice, since beehaw will not be updating Lemmy versions, and plans to eventually leave Lemmy.

That said, beehaw is a great community, just bear the above in mind before making such a switch. I will probably join another instance when beehaw's lemmy instance closes down, but until then, I have great respect for beehaw's team, the community they have built, and generally making this a safe place for it's users, so I will likely stay until that switch happens.

[–] Fapper_McFapper@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Thank you! I made a shortcut directly to the Beehaw website. I have an account there and one on lemm.ee as well. I’ve only blocked two users and one instance and the experience is so much better. Thanks for your advice!

[–] HaywardT@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm on mobile using Voyager and I can select a user then block user. I can also block a community and block an instance. My block list is huge and growing.

Seems like sharing block lists (similar to ad block) might be a good feature. If I see someone knowing lie or act in bad faith or just generally are unhelpful, unknowledgeable, etc. I block them.

[–] Fapper_McFapper@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can’t thank you enough for this. Just downloaded Voyager. Thank you!

[–] HaywardT@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 months ago

It's my pleasure. I have used a couple other clients and liked them too. I change whenever I find a needed feature missing.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I’m considering leaving the fediverse altogether

I've had moments where I considered it too, because of all the tankies and propaganda, but I'm still here because I really want to see it succeed.

Unfortunately, I won't even admit to anyone that I use it, let alone recommend it. I think from a rational outside perspective, the unfiltered Fediverse is an extremist echochamber. Some of the things that get said and heavily upvoted are wild.

I've had death threats multiple times from Hexbear users, and I've abandoned an account because Lemmy.ml users followed me around and downvoted everything I posted (which was mostly memes at the time).

We can't expect people to deal with all of that when there's already a relatively steep learning curve when joining. There's no corporation running the show to fight propaganda, we have to deal with it, or the Fediverse is at risk of going the way of Voat.

[–] Fapper_McFapper@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

Yep, I’ve had similar experiences. For as much as we believe Reddit was/is toxic, the toxicity here can be a bit on the heavy side. Like you. I’m still hanging around because I really want the fediverse to succeed and I’d like for Lemmy to be a big part of it.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, sounds like you just need to go to an instance that defederates from those places. Lemm.ee doesn't defederate a lot but it sounds like you'd prefer an instance that does.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That does nothing to solve the problem. I want to see the Fediverse succeed.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

In order for the Fediverse to succeed, we need well-moderated instances that aren't afraid of defederating from the badly moderated instances. As you say, you've had death threats from Hexbear users for instance. If the Fediverse is to succeed, we can't have all users go through that, so we need a strong core of instances that defederates from such instances.

That means that we need users to choose to go to the well-moderated instances and that hopefully will not be a difficult choice.

So what I'm saying is that you going to a better moderated instance is not incompatible with the success of the Fediverse - in fact it is basically required for its success.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Fair enough, I see your point. Thanks for explaining.

[–] Radiant_sir_radiant@beehaw.org 3 points 6 months ago

I think this is a very good and important point.

[–] CraigeryTheKid@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm on lemm.ee, in mobile, and can block instances.

Hamburger --> username --> settings --> blocks; scroll down to instances. I'm not using any app either, just the web "app" or w/e the tech term is.

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Beehaw seems to lack the option (can block users and communities, but not instances, is it a recent Lemmy setting that isn't on the version on Beehaw?), then again Beehaw is very strict on who it federates with so i expect the worsening of that instance will inevitably lead to their defederation

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Yeah beehaw is also a separate software implementation that is mostly compatible with lemmy but still distinct. I'd recommend switching to a lemmy instance with permissive federation and curating your blocklist yourself with the instance block feature. That's why i picked lemm.ee, it has one of the more chill admin teams. In general as an anarchist i dislike the whole "rival fiefdoms" model of federation that lemmy has, would to make my own decisions. But it's still better than reddit lol

[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 6 points 6 months ago

Oh no I'll stick with Beehaw, I'm in because of their principles, same reason why i believe .ml might likely end defederated

[–] Zoop@beehaw.org 3 points 6 months ago

beehaw is also a separate software implementation that is mostly compatible with lemmy but still distinct. I'd recommend switching to a lemmy instance

You're mistaken; Beehaw does use Lemmy software for now. I think maybe you're thinking of kbin/mbin instances, or maybe you heard about Beehaw planning to move off of Lemmy software and misunderstood.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’d recommend switching to a lemmy instance with permissive federation and curating your blocklist yourself with the instance block feature.

I wouldn't recommend this in general. The instances you block still influence things via comments and votes and posts in other communities.

In general as an anarchist i dislike the whole “rival fiefdoms” model of federation that lemmy has

Sorry I just find this kinda funny, aren't a lot of anarchists saying that "rival fiefdom" is exactly how society should function? But I guess anarchy is a very broad term so I might be talking about a different anarchy than you are talking about.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

'Fiefdom' is a domain of a feudal lord, which would not be anarchist, by any definition.

If you simply mean that different groups with different sets of rules and outlooks exist, then sure, but that is abstract enough not to really be specific to the Fediverse; most other social media platforms also have some form of private groups too.

[–] Fapper_McFapper@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for this! Unfortunately I don’t think that option is available on the app I’m using.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago
[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 months ago

If it's always the same users, just block them. I'm also exclusively on Mobile and my app (Relay) has a context menu for users where you can block them. So does Voyager. This is part of lemmy, and sever based (your profile blocks that user). Meaning you will not be served his comments or posts, in this client or any other, or on the Web.

[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

I can’t find a way to block certain users or entire instances.

Blocking users - go to their profile and block.