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[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I’m always astounded how eager the average software engineer is to trade away actual coding work for busybody overhead crap jobs.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 53 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Guess which one pays better and gives me more free time to work on my own passion projects.

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Obviously you do you and you do not owe anyone anything (least of all your employer).

However, something does not sit well with me about the fact that we’ve created a system where the most driven and ambitious people are removed from the production process as quickly as possible.

It says A LOT about what we value as an industry.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

Oh, you've misjudged my drive and ambition.

[–] pantyhosewimp@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 6 months ago

Yes. I have worked in a financial company and a lot of teams in that particular company were structured with 2 or 3 Americans with no skills other than exposure to internal company info, the kind of stuff that should just be written down in a wiki somewhere. And when real work needs to be done they (metaphorically of course) drag an Indian contractor out of a cage who actually knows what’s going on and how to do anything. And they do it with disdain as if being a contributing member of society is a bad thing.

Just being in a meeting with some of these teams made me feel like I was a Harkonnen from Dune.

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 18 points 6 months ago

Would be nice to be paid well to do what's interesting

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Often the only way to progress is to take a role where you spend hours each day edging middle management.

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] dabu@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Higher salary, usually

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Because they give them nice titles, and young devs want the status of the title. :)

I tried being a manager but I hated everything about it. The dishonesty, the politics, the useless meetings.

I'm back in a development role now and I'm super happy and excited to start the day. Almost no meetings!

[–] kralk@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The corollary is - I'm surprised how many programmers are opposed to documenting what they're doing?

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 months ago

I'm probably a freak, but I can't stand working on something complex, being pulled away from it for a week or two, and not being able to pick things back up because it's not documented well. Especially when I'm the only person to blame.

I also make scripts and programs with the goal to hand them off when I'm done. I've got more than enough to keep me busy at work without having to be the only person able to support my projects forevermore. Ultimately I'm still the go to, but I never want to be so critical that I can't take time off, or that I'm effectively on call 24/7. I want the credit, but the whole point is to reduce responsibility by making shit more efficient and easy.

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 months ago

That’s not what I meant. You know that.

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

No we're not eager. Paperwork is just part of any job.