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the plant is designed to remove 36,000 metric tons of carbon each year, the equivalent of taking 8,600 cars off the road.

In short, for removal like this to make a meaningful difference, and not just function as a PR exercise, we'll need to cut emissions to almost zero.

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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 14 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Realized CCS recovery is like 25% lower than expected, and highly variable.

Remind me again why we pour billions into this? It's definitely not just so we can continue what we are doing, without actually doing anything, is it?

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 17 points 6 months ago

It's mostly being funded as a means of creating social permission to keep on extracting and burning without actually doing CCS

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, its so that more people become awfully rich or the people who are already awfully rich are awfully richer. Public money is the easiest to steal

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 months ago

Muh TaX WrItE OfFs

[–] leds@feddit.dk 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

To put a realistic price on carbon emmissions, now we know exactly what a tonne of CO2 costs so we can impose that as a tax.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yet, how do you do that? Cost to produce said tonne? Societal cost of damage? Ecological cost, estimated in terms of reduced biodiversity? All of these costs change with time too. It's a tough one for sure.

[–] leds@feddit.dk 1 points 6 months ago

Use the cost for removing it so that you can pay someone to clean up.