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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Zorque@kbin.social 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Cool. But until you actually do something about the producers, it's just a giant bandaid for a gushing mortal wound. It stems the tide, but you're still bleeding to death.

[–] federalreverse@feddit.de 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Their money is a big part of their power. We need some wedge in there to be able to take more and more of their power away eventually. What's still happening right now is that they extract money from society and use a small amount of that to pay dividends to people with political/judicial power.

In that sense: Taxing exploration and extraction can be a gateway for more, including criminal justice. But we do need to get over that initial hump.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago

It can... but it won't. As the other commenter said, they'll just squeeze the money out of other parts of the supply chain. Either by going even cheaper on safety and emissions (causing more problems) or squeezing their workers out of money.

These companies have decades, if not centuries, of practice in ensuring they can maximize their profit in any way possible. Taking a nibble here and there isn't going to do shit for the overall problem.

[–] jaspersgroove@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

To say nothing of the fact that if we tax these companies more, they’ll just raise their prices to cover it, which effectively means you and me will be paying the taxes, not them.