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I'm no expert on law but maybe something about AI unethically taking our jobs away
Universal base income + AI/robots taking care of all necessary jobs sounds great
Thats exactly what Andrew Yangs political platform was. I hope he runs again
I wrote him in and probably will again
I don't know if he's running for president, but in case you're unaware he founded a new political party, the Forward Party. It's the first time I've really believed in anything political; it might not resonate with you but it's worth looking into if you haven't.
Oh I had no idea. Damn he's not in the dem ticket? I thought he would be great arguing AI talking points on stage against all the boomers on the left, guess he's done with the sham of centrist politics tho, can't blame him really
The issue with Yang is that he's proposing cutting other social safety nets and replacing them with UBI which would put a lot of people in worse situations. UBI would be great but we also need robust social programs.
I've been reliant on social programs and found them severely lacking. They're bureaucracy at their worst, and I'm lucky to be able to navigate through it - it seems those who need the help the most are the least able to receive it. They're wasteful too, I would rather the funds go directly to people who need it rather than feeding the middleman.
China didn't take your job and neither will AI. Corporations will replace you for something that cost less.
We can't really legislate against AI because other countries won't. Its also a huge boon for society, we just have to make sure the profits are redistributed and work hours overall are reduced instead of all the productivity gain going into the pockets of the mega wealthy
I’m not sure that people want to legislate against AI as much as they want to find a way to legislate for the fair outcomes associated with AI productivity. The challenge is that is harder to do. In the USA we can’t get out of our own way to properly tax corporations, nevermind have a more complex solution like reduce worker hours, increase PTO based upon improved societal output. In the absence of a complex but comprehensive solution (which I don’t think we have the capability to pull off) people are desperate and saying things like “let’s hold back on AI will we can put together this mythical great plan”. We’re never going to get the great plan though. Hopefully I’m just cynical but I don’t see a path (at least for the US as I can’t speak for the rest of the world) that doesn’t continue towards dystopia.
What makes it unethical? How is it different from advancements in technology taking away any other job, like elevator operators, numerous factory positions, calculators (the human kind), telephone operators, people who sew clothes (somewhat), and so on?
It seems to me that automating away jobs has historically bettered humanity. Why would we want a job to be done by a person when we can have a machine do it (assuming a machine does equal or better)? We can better focus people on other jobs and eventually, hopefully, with no mandatory need for a job at all.
Lol, as if. Look at wages:productivity since the 70s
Well, this "eventually" thing wouldn't be until we can automate away so many jobs that we simply couldn't (meaningfully) employ a significant chunk of people. We're not there yet. Though we shouldn't wait till we reach that point to get some form of UBI available. It's at that point where UBI would be critical and needs to be at a living wage level.