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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 34 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's also known to intentionally show you content that's likely to provoke you into fights online

Which just makes all the sanctimonious screed about avoiding echo chambers a bunch of horse shit, because that's not how outside digital social behavior works, outside the net if you go out of your way to keep arguing with people who wildly disagree with you, your not avoiding echo chambers, you're building a class action restraining order case against yourself.

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I’ve long held this hunch that when people’s beliefs are challenged, they tend to ‘dig in’ and wind up more resolute. (I think it’s actual science and I learned that in a sociology class many years ago but it’s been so long I can’t say with confidence if that’s the case.)

Assuming my hunch is right (or at least right enough), I think that side of social media - driving up engagement by increasing discord also winds up radicalizing people as a side effect of chasing profits.

It’s one of the things I appreciate about Lemmy. Not everyone here seems to just be looking for a fight all the time.

[–] Kalysta@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It depends on how their beliefs are challenged. Calling them morons won’t work. You have to gently question them about their ideas and not seem to be judging them.

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 7 months ago

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Another commenter on this post suggested my belief on it was from an Oatmeal comic. That prompted me to search it out, and seeing it spelled out again sort of opened up the memory for me.

The class was a sociology class about 20 years ago, and the professor was talking about cognitive dissonance as it relates to folks choosing whether or not they wanted to adopt the beliefs of another group. I don’t think he got into how to actually challenge beliefs in a constructive way, since he was discussing how seemingly small rifts can turn into big disagreements between social groups, but subsequent life experience and a lot of good articles about folks working with radicals to reform their beliefs confirm exactly what you commented.

[–] Eccitaze@yiffit.net 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You may have gotten this very belief from this comic

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 7 months ago

Nah. I picked that up about 20 years ago, but the comic is a great one.
I haven’t read The Oatmeal in a while. I guess I know what I’ll be doing later tonight!

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

People have been fighting online long before algorithmic content suggestions. They may amplify it, but you can't blame that on them entirely.

The truth is many people would argue and fight like that in real life if they could be anonymous.