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It doesn't matter if it's a CD, a Film, or manual with the instructions to build a spaceship. If you copy it, the original owner doesn't lose anything. If you don't copy it, the only one missing something (the experience) is YOU.

Enjoy!

Of course, if you happen to have some extra money for donations to creators, please do so. If you don't have that, try contributing with a review somewhere or recommending the content, spread the word. Piracy was shown to drive businesses in several occasions by independent and biased corps (trying to show the opposite).

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Libraries and food banks have their inventory paid for, though. Neither one of them accepts stolen goods. What are you talking about?

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So if I torrent something from someone who paid for it, it's like checking it out from a library's collection and not piracy. Got it.

/s?

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 7 months ago

it's like checking it out from a library's collection

Yes, exactly. But better, because by “checking it out” you're not preventing anyone else from also enjoying it at the same time (on the contrary, by nature of the bittorrent protocol you're improving the availability of said cultural work, helping to preserve it, and culturally enriching society to a greater extent than libraries can unless they don't artificially restrict access to digital works).

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You’re right, it’s not a perfect analogy. I was more pushing back against the supposition that the depravation of a potential sale equates to theft.

That said, media that is pirated comes from somewhere. Many times that content is ripped from streaming providers directly, which means someone has paid for the content initially. Other times the content is ripped off a blu-ray, which also means someone has paid for the content already. Cam recordings require someone to pay for a ticket (or someone to work at a theater but at that point we’re getting in to semantics).

At this point I’ve completely lost the context of what we’re even discussing here. Oh, right. OP said piracy isn’t stealing. Stealing/theft/larceny requires real property to be taken from its owner. Digital piracy does not meet that definition, full stop. OP is technically correct. Is it copyright infringement? Sure. Is that moral? Idk, I can’t dictate your morals but I don’t have any moral objection to it myself.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 7 months ago

Is that moral?

When copyright holders can remove access to paid content on a whim, or destroy already finished works because it's somehow more profitable than selling them, or simply don't care about preserving the works they claim to be responsible for, archiving them even against their wishes is not only moral, but a moral imperative.

Culture is more important than profits. And if preserving culture is illegal, the law is wrong, and must be ignored until it's been corrected.