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From the top of the article, we come to discover that the MyPillow person is asking us all to foot his legal bill:

MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell doesn’t seem to be so confident in his election conspiracies these days.

The floundering businessman took to Steve Bannon’s podcast on Monday to push his latest theory that the U.S. needs to outlaw electronic voting machines. The current suit, led by failed Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake, is being underwritten by the pillow salesman. After admitting the effort is a total longshot and his evidence did not “shock the world,” as he had promised, Lindell decided to ask supporters if they could foot his legal bill.

The article closes with these further challenges that this MyPillow individual has had to face:

The former millionaire spent months using every platform at his disposal to seed conspiracy theories following the 2020 presidential election, including against Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic, claiming the electronic voting companies were complicit in a scheme to keep Donald Trump from retaking the White House. That, however, cost Lindell $5 million, and put him on the line in a $1.3 billion defamation suit brought by Dominion, in which he’s being sued not just for spreading the lies but also attempting to profit off of it. Lindell, of course, has a plan for that—he’s going to use the Supreme Court to defend himself with his new crowdfunded legal fund.

“But Steve, all this evidence, this new evidence is gonna be used far and wide,” he told the far-right host. “There’s cases out there, as you know, Mike Lindell and MyPillow getting sued for billions of dollars.”

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[–] Myriadblue@lemmy.world 41 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Strongly agree that we sound eliminate electronic voting machines unless the software is publicly available and audited.

[–] wagesj45@kbin.run 34 points 8 months ago

He fell ass-backward into a good idea.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

This would be ideal, but we already audit its accuracy in many states via concurrent paper ballots.

So yes, we should, but we do have "compensating controls" even without it.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're confusing electronic voting with the electronic paper ballot counters. They're not the same machine at all.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Im not. Some voting machines also give you a paper ballot that can be audited. Pennsylvania is one such state.

In Pennsylvania, all voting systems produce paper ballots that can be audited. This allows election officials to verify the accuracy of the outcome long after voting has concluded.

With these machines, you vote on the machine, it prints out the result that you verify, then you drop the paper ballot in a box as you leave. This gives you the ease of digital voting and tabulation, with a paper audit trail if needed or contested.

Counts of these paper ballots have proved the machines are stunningly accurate.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I like that but I still don't know why we can't just all use paper and have the count take a little longer. I'd much rather the count be accurate than fast.

Plus mail-in voting is better because I can take my time and do some research and also vote without pants.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Mail in is the right answer, but if you are going to do in person, you want the voting to happen on the machine. Florida's "hanging chad" fiasco points out how paper ballots can confuse and frustrate voters.

An easy computer UI with simple choices that spits out a ballot with hard data on it is the ideal compromise.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Those ballots were overly complicated, too, and built to be counted by machines like a punch card. I think if they had been using paper with boxes that you can fill in they would have had fewer problems. For example, a lot of people ended up voting for Buchanan for president and Democrats in other races, which is just weird.