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[–] lutillian@sh.itjust.works -4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's the NATO agreement. https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/stock_publications/20120822_nato_treaty_en_light_2009.pdf

Article 5 is the one that got invoked by the Hamas attack

As stated in another thread, at this point Biden has done enough to cover against any legal retaliation however, and 100% command a withdrawal of US support as Israel has actually been using the supplies to commit war crimes

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Israel is not a member of nato, and article 5 only applies in Europe and North America.

You might want to reread that

[–] lutillian@sh.itjust.works -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

From what I can tell, that just makes it easier to sell them weapons, not necessary. Feel free to correct me though

[–] lutillian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's only a subsection of our obligations. Two paragraphs up are what I was actually talking about. We have multiple bilateral defense agreements with them which essentially boils down to an attack on me must me treated as an attack on you.

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ok. I see multiple treaties there.

So as the person making the claim that we have to send them weapons, I am going to ask you to find exactly where it says we must help them.

You made the claim, you should be able to post why instead of just a link to every treaty we have going right now.

[–] lutillian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The ways to remedy a bilateral defense agreement depending on the actual agreement (I'm having trouble finding any of the us-isreal ones... So I'm just making assumptions here) usually boil down to supplying military aid or providing military defense.

Essentially the us must deploy supplies or a defense force. I'll keep digging for the actual text of one of these treaties but it might take a bit because the US state departments site is actually just really badly organized.