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[–] frezik@midwest.social 0 points 8 months ago (18 children)

All the invasions of Iran, Afganistan, Vietnam, Syria, etc where unjustfied invasions

  • The US has never invaded Iran
  • Afganistan was completely justified; the US could not let 9/11 go. Few countries in the world disputed this at the time, even among those unfriendly to the US. You can certainly criticize how it played out--I sure as hell do.
  • Vietnam, yeah, not going to argue there
  • Syria was a complex 13 way clusterfuck. We supported a specific side against another specific side, mostly with material and air support, and some limited ground support. It's not exactly an invasion, but this is certainly another place where it's more about how it played out than the support in itself.
[–] bumphot@lemy.lol 0 points 8 months ago (11 children)

I did mean Iraq, but Iran is not much better. US staged a coup in Iran to get a puppet government https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat#Release_of_U.S._government_records_and_official_acknowledgement Afganistan is not justified, you don't invade an entire country because of a terroist attack. It was an excuse, just like the Patriot Act for more imperisalism and antidemocratic actions. Calling things invasions are semantics, more important is the bigger picture. US has huge influnace in the region thorug coups and military invasions.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The current winner in the Middle East is Russia

Since they are allowed to support the killing of civilians and suppression of rights they have Iran, Iraq, and Syria

You can see how hard it is for the US to even have a foothold there with the Israel conflict. Which they are forced to support because of the above

[–] bumphot@lemy.lol -1 points 8 months ago

US has far more influence in Middle Easst then Russia. Russia didn't win anything in Middle East. US has control of Saudi Arabia and Israel quite famously. Most other governments where once funded by the CIA as well.

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