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Given that ~70% of US citizens are white, and Beehaw users are mostly US citizens, 75% users being white is very close to the expectation. I wouldn't express this as "unfortunate" as you wrote in your June summary.
Do keep in mind that 11.6% of people chose to not answer that question so this 75% is not a very accurate metric. Not only that but ~35% of people declared to not come from the United States. I will also mention that our goal is not to reach an average that is close to a country's demographics - we expect a bigger than average amount of people to be from a minorised group.
I'm just going to note here that even asking for white vs non-white, you may not be capturing the full picture of minorised groups. Many European countries legally recognise the existence of a number of ethnic minority white groups, which have a racial/ethnic/cultural difference that has led to them being discriminated against within a larger white majority population. Those people will still consider themselves white, because they are, but they're still part of a minorised group - and prejudice against them is often considered socially acceptable "because they're white". (I consider myself to be a member of such a group.)
Not the person you wrote to. I agree.
"We want more non-whites" is an oversimplification of what I thought diversity was supposed to be. I fear that it sounds unfair to white people, depending on the context.
I'm saying this as a non-white btw.
Absolutely agree! Diversity is really complicated, which makes it difficult to properly capture using a few poll questions, but I think the most important thing is that Beehaw should be safe for everyone (except for the intolerant), and that's not really about how many people there are from each minority.
I’m 100% down with this point. Personally, I find surveys that ask “White or Non White” to be very confusing when not qualified by ethnicity.
Personally, I’m Hispanic (Nicaragüense) and my skin tone reflects that, but legally speaking I’d be white.
Why? As we believe that race doesn't contribute to anything, race distribution of US Beehaw users is going to reflect that of the US.
Unless we can see what the other 35% of users looks like, we Beehaw folks can't understand what is meant by "more non-whites". (Edit: checked the survey; it's mostly from the west)
Edit: Anyway, what's the goal here? More countries, more races, or something else?
My biggest complain about Threadiverse (Lemmy/Kbin pages) since I came is that there is too much content from US, both posts and comments, and almost no content from other countries, except for UK. But no content from Portugal, Spain, Italy, Poland, Germany (only in German on feddit.de), and so on.
Reddit had that problem too, but on r/europe at least I could read several news posts every day, even with translations in the comment section. Here everything is about Musk, Trump, DeSantis, FCC, Governor of Virginia, Governor of California, Governor of Iowa, SCOTUS, POTUS, CNN, Fox, Jon Stewart...
I have no other complains. But this one is getting me tired of Lemmy/Kbin, because I have almost no place to interact on.
Hello,
I'm trying to solve this issue with !yurop@lemm.ee. The sidebar has links to most of the European countries communities
Maybe we, or anyone, should create an instance called "lemmywithout.us" or "kbinwithout.us", in a similar fashion to this magazine.
Interesting magazine, seems already to be a good start!