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[–] mim@lemmy.sdf.org 130 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (51 children)

Tankies.

You can't have a discussion about anything without some tankie blaming it on Ukrainians / the west / capitalism, etc.

"Oh you stubbed your toe on the table? See, tables are oppressive furniture of the bourgeoisie. The Chinese government wanted to make all tables toe-stubbing resistent, but that would affect IKEA's bottom line and the pharmaceutical industry's profits. I have a source from tankiepeoplesmagazine to back this up."

[–] Ilikepornaddict@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I almost never see this, but I see complaints about "tankies" all the time. I'm not even sure what a tankie is, but it seems about as stupid as the term "woke".

[–] mim@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

Have a look at comments in any news article regarding Ukraine. They will simp for Russia just because they are not US allies.

A tankie is commonly used to refer to someone who blindly defends the actions of the USSR, China, North Korea, etc. Going as far as denying human rights abuses and genocide.

It's not the same thing as woke.

[–] Ilikepornaddict@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know it's not the same as woke, the word just hits the same level of annoyingness for me.

I'm all for shutting down those who support Russia right now, I just feel like using buzzwords makes it more difficult to take people seriously.

[–] mim@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The term goes back to the 50s and 60s, hardly a buzzword.

Sorry to tell you, but you've been living under a rock.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never saw that word used until I came to lemmy. I had to look it up and found that exact same wiki page for it.

Just because its a real word with a wiki page doesn't make it any less annoying to constantly see on here. And only here. I see that word on NO other sites I ever visit.

[–] mim@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's a very common word in leftist circles. So if Lemmy is your first contact with leftists (beyond center left), then that explains it.

Being annoying is your opinion, but it's not a buzzword that someone from gen z invented recently.

[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I didn't say it was a buzzword.

I'm in the US and "lefty" might mean something different for me than it does for you. Where I live and the sites I go on - have leftys on there but no, they never use the term tankie.

Annoying is an opinion yes, but I'm saying its annoying because of how often it is brought up. Not that I'm siding with tankies or people who are against tankies.

Anything that gets repeated over and over is going to come across as annoying. Unless you like redundancy.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He didn't read your username, the guy he was arguing with when you chose to butt in did call it a buzzword and the guy you replied to didn't realize you were some unrelated person, so I feel your sardonic emboldening of "I didn't call it a buzzword" here is quite undeserved on his part. Honest mistake.

And it gets brought up a lot becuse they're everywhere here, they seep out from lemmygrad and hexbear and infect poor innocent instances who do not want to be constantly annoyed by them, your problem with the "over"use of the word tankie is in essence created by the tankies here on lemmy infesting people who would otherwise be just fine not saying "fuck off tankie" to a tankie that won't fuck off.

Not that you mentioned who you see as causing the problem, but just to shed a little light on it, by complaining about people using the perjorative you're essentially like the teacher punishing the victim for being fed up enough to finally hit the bully back who has been hitting the victim while the teacher has their back turned.

[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honest mistake

Really? Why not just.. read usernames? I already assumed that was his mistake but there isn't like a timer to post. You can sit here and read things before responding. You can even edit posts after you make them.

And I'm aware of why it gets brought up. I saw the mega post about it too.

I stand by what I said. It's annoying to see it constantly. And I do only see it on lemmy.

by complaining about people using the perjorative you’re essentially like the teacher punishing the victim for being fed up enough to finally hit the bully back who has been hitting the victim while the teacher has their back turned.

Interesting you should mention this. I'm Filipino and there was this racist kid in my class who always said racist shit to me and would fuck with me all the time, would even beat me up sometimes.

This was second grade. We were walking in single file line back to class and he was behind me, stepping on the back of my shoes to fuck with me while I was walking.

I turned around, and punched him right in the stomach. I was sent to the principals office and got in trouble. My parents were called in and all that. I believe he also got in trouble but it didn't matter. He still said racist things to me after that but he stopped physically fucking with me.

So nah. I don't think that's a good metaphor for what's happening here.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really? Why not just.. read usernames?

Really? Why not just get off your high horse? You have to be rude because someone didn't care enough about some inane internet argument to smell your butt? There isn't an asshole quota you have to hit, you can be a nice person. You can even edit posts to make yourself sound like less of a dick.

And I'm aware of why it gets brought up. I saw the mega post about it too.

I stand by what I said. It's annoying to see it constantly. And I do only see it on lemmy.

Good for you, but the fact still stands that people here complain about it more because they are also here. You surprised people in the Mojave don't complain more about flooding? Might be because there is none. That may explain why you don't see it where tankies are "not." You also surprised people in a job like say nurses complain about the issues affecting nurses more than non nurses? Maybe that is because the issues are affecting the nurses. Maybe that explains why the people bombarded by tankies are comolaining about tankies more than people who aren't being bombarded with tankies. I realize I sound condescending but tbh it seems so obvious to me that the people affected by it would be complaining and frankly I can't understand how you don't understand that.

Interesting you should mention this. I'm Filipino and there was this racist kid in my class who always said racist shit to me and would fuck with me all the time, would even beat me up sometimes.

Ah yes, so I'm a normal person and the tankie is a kid in my lemmy who always says violent immoral shit to me and fucks with me all the time. Would try to beat me up were it an option, but this is the internet.

This was second grade. We were walking in single file line back to class and he was behind me, stepping on the back of my shoes to fuck with me while I was walking.

This was last week. We were talking in a single file comment line about landlords and he was saying how we should violently murder them and denying multiple genocides.

I turned around, and punched him right in the stomach. I was sent to the principals office and got in trouble. My parents were called in and all that. I believe he also got in trouble but it didn't matter. He still said racist things to me after that but he stopped physically fucking with me.

So I turned around and said "Fuck off tankie." Then cubedsteaks started complaining about me calling him a tankie, thankfully he isn't actually a "teacher" (mod) or I'd be "expelled" (banned). The tankie may also get in trouble.

So nah. I don't think that's a good metaphor for what's happening here.

So yeah, you're complaining about me calling genocide denialists who actively want to murder people "a mean word." It's a very apt comparison, and you can fuck right off to hexbear/lemmygrad with the tankies.

[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you can fuck right off to hexbear/lemmygrad with the tankies

I'm not on hexbear and I don't like that userbase.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Right. You do realize that is who "tankies" are, right?

[–] mim@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm in the US and "lefty" might mean something different for me than it does for you. Where I live and the sites I go on - have leftys on there but no, they never use the term tankie.

As I mentioned, it's used in discussion circles with leftists beyond center left (i.e. someone who's more left than Bernie Sanders): Anarchists, Marxists, Maoists, etc. Lemmy might be the only site you go to that has a sizable proportion of these.

On Reddit, if you go to places like r/anarchism, r/socialism, r/stupidpol, you get to see it being used.

Annoying is an opinion yes, but I'm saying its annoying because of how often it is brought up.

It's brought up a lot here because there are a lot of them on lemmy. You'd never hear people around your neighborhood complain about something that doesn't happen in your neighborhood.

Maybe you are not seeing as many because your instance might block them. But I see them all the time is news articles about Ukraine or North Korea.

I see that there's a discussion thread that goes on about this, not gonna get involved on that.

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