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[–] GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social -2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Ope, must have struck a nerve 😂

Maybe I'm wrong, but the fediverse and technology like Activity Pub existed long before Lemmy. So irrespective of the "creators" it would have been developed by someone eventually. Do I respect the work that they put into it? Sure. Do I respect them? I guess in some fashion, since they're human beings. Do I respect their hateful ideologies? Fuck no lol

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

You don't understand the first thing about the ideologies you claim to hate because you know them. Its clear you don't. You paint with such a broad brush it's clear you understand nothing lol

Also, yes! It is Very annoying when twerps like you give Steve apple and Elon musk and Edison credit for the things they stole from the people they exploit, it sickens me, as a matter of fact. Because I understand the cruelty inherent to the ideology which powers the system that lifted these industrial tyrants to their undeserved positions of power and influence.

[–] GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

You're looking specifically at the metaphor I used instead of the principal. Let's use a more direct comparison. Operation Paperclip brought more than 1600 former nazi scientists to America to develop technologies that they worked on for Hitler and Nazi Germany. Aeronautics, genetics, medical studies, etc.

I'd imagine that most worked for Nazi Germany under the threat of death or imprisonment, but there's more than a few that worked enthusiastically for the nazi party given a sample size that large. Am I supposed to respect Josef Mengele and the people that worked under his supervision for the medical advancements made under his cruel and torturous experimentation of jewish prisoners? And no, that's not a rhetorical question. I actually want you to address that question with a simple yes or no.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

What the fuck are you saying? Mengele was not among those brought over by paperclip and he didn't exactly do useful experimentation. Fuck him, fuck the Japanese scientists who would have made for a better example if you were less dogbrained, and fuck the Nazi scientists who no, would not have been shot regardless.

It's beyond stupid to describe communism as "hateful" as though it is based on a bigotry like aryanism is.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

The fact that you're using this example to make a point about "tankies" is hilarious. Do you know who liberated Auschwitz?

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'd imagine that most worked for Nazi Germany under the threat of death or imprisonment

Certainly not these 1600 of the upper eschelon. Probably a few, sure, but most? Of these 1600 that the US went out of its way to save and coddle? Nah, the ones who had no choice were working class folks and even then not nearly most, the rest chose it. Especially those 1600. Not to mention nazi medical experiments did not yield anything of value that wouldn't have been obtained another way. They learned only how to inflict great suffering.

I find your example invalid

But lets pretend I don't. Let's pretend they DID make important discoveries that have saved millions of lives? No! What the fuck? No of course not!

I don't even understand your point here. I specifically don't respect these positions of power and the people who occupy them and use them to exploit others? That was what my post was ABOUT?

What are you talking about????

[–] Summzashi@lemmy.one -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Little tankie is angry. Don't stomp your little feet to hard. You might wake your parents.

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Summzashi@lemmy.one -1 points 6 months ago

Grrr! So angwy. It's a big scary world out there.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Hateful ideologies like "stop bombing brown people" and "hey maybe we should restructure our economy so that it doesn't run on third world slave labor and kill poor people with treatable illnesses"