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[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 25 points 8 months ago (12 children)

The reason the railgun was popular was because it was the only effective way to deal with chargers. To nerf that and leave other AT weapons / charger health and armor untouched is really fucking stupid.

[–] ksharp@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Hard agree.

Arrowhead published a blog post where they went into detail about their design philosophy: https://www.arrowheadgamestudios.com/2024/03/balancing-the-firepower-in-helldivers-2/

I did not like the subtle arrogance behind their rationale here for the changes.

[–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Subtle arrogance? It seems like a completely reasonable and well thought out post. People read way too much into normal posts.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It feels like the game balance team hasn't played the game on the higher difficulties. If your primary weapon isn't supposed to be able to deal with tanks, then your strategems are your only option. But nerfing the railgun without giving us other alternatives makes killing massive amounts of tanks impossible. I doubt the buffs to the flamethrower and laser cannon are going to be enough.

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Meh, I disagree. With the "meta" loadout of breaker, shield, and railgun, even helldiver difficulty can be relatively easy as long as you can avoid getting surrounded. If the goal is to always feel like you need to work together and barely make it out alive, these changes make sense. I personally prefer that there isn't one correct way to play the higher difficulties.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

I personally prefer that there isn't one correct way to play the higher difficulties.

I agree that there should be many viable ways to at higher difficulties. I just think that nerfing the only way that seems to work without providing alternatives doesn't seem like the way to go about making that happen.

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I don't think it's arrogant, I think it's actually really interesting how they talk about the "fantasy" of the game. I get not everyone plays the game for the same reason, but I understand the devs' vision of the game really being about the feel of being a hero against the odds, not having the most effecient loadout or unlocking everything as fast as possible.

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