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Unreliable poll, perhaps shouldn’t be trusted. See op-ed here https://lemmy.world/post/12773276

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[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nobody said "anyone criticising Biden is supporting Trump"

People absolutely say that on Lemmy, at least.

It's a matter of de facto supporting trump by discouraging the Democratic vote. If Biden would step aside and someone else could run, great. If not, talking shit about Biden absolutely helps Trump.

This would be a great point if it looked like Biden was going to win. But as things stand, he's behind in the polls. So we should be criticising to make him better. You know, if you actually want to stop Trump.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If Biden is the democrat candidate running against Trump, and if a person lives in a riding/region where their vote matters (e.g., not a Republican stronghold)... (and assuming the person DOESN'T want Trump to win)

  • Voting for Biden supports a Democrat victory
  • Voting for Trump supports a Republican victory
  • Voting third party takes a vote away from Biden, thus supporting a Republican victory
  • Abstaining from voting takes a vote away from Biden, thus supporting a Republican victory

So if you want the Republicans to lose, a person should vote for Biden.

I'm sorry. It's the way the US political system works, and it's the way it works where I live, too.

If you don't want Trump to win (and the rest of the other "ifs" also apply to your situation), then your only choice at the polls is to vote for Biden. Not liking your options won't change the reality of the situation.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This doesn't really address my point. I understand how first past the post works (also from a country with this system), the issue is whether Biden is going to win at all. Polls say no and maybe that should be an issue?

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 1 points 6 months ago

maybe that should be an issue?

It's not as these people are already crafting their excuses for why it'll be someone else's fault if he loses just like Trump did right before the 2020 election. Democrats want to keep the status quo of shitty politics which is why they aren't doing anything to improve the situation and why we're not allowed to criticize them. Just shut your eyes and mouth and toe the party line!