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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/264644

The Ministry of Justice of the Donetsk Peoples Republic just announced that the death penalty will be on the table as a punishment for the nazis and mercenaries that will soon be put on trial for their crimes against the people of Donbass. The trial will begin soon. The nazis are being charged with crimes against humanity, genocide and mercenarism (all punishable up to the death penalty). There are 2 british citizens among them. Nazis be shitting their pants, libs be coping ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ

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[โ€“] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm not a lawyer or anything, but I'm pretty sure you're off there. What they're emphasizing is that you don't have to do the crime itself to be guilty of conspiracy. Thing is, you still have to at least do the conspiracy. There is no guilt by association. Of course, this is all under US law. I'm not sure what any Ukrainian fighters would be subject to.

Of course, the war criminals who ordered the indiscriminate shelling of Ukraine won't be brought to any justice. They will stay far behind the military and economic lines, safe from consequences.

[โ€“] AgreeableLandscape@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yes, you need to do the conspiracy, but, overt agreement is part of that. Just like a hitman simply saying "sure, I'll kill her" constitutes entering into the conspiracy, if, say, whatever initiation oath the Azov makes you recite says anything about working toward racial purity or anything like that, that would probably count. Or, if they at any point help in any way with any of the Azov's war efforts.

Remember that conspiracy law punishes all members of that conspiracy of every crime committed under it. If you and your friend rob a store, and your friend decides to shoot the cashier on their way out, even if they did not consult you, you're on the hook for murder. This video has two scenes with very Layman friendly explanations by a real lawyer of how that works in the US, and what constitutes a conspiracy in general

[โ€“] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So how should this be applied to Russian war criminals?

[โ€“] AgreeableLandscape@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I made another comment about that.

[โ€“] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Sorry, should have replied to that one instead.