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Counties are blocking wind and solar across the US (www.usatoday.com)

submitted 10 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Counties are blocking wind and solar across the US::Local governments across the U.S. are blocking new clean energy plants. See the best locations for wind and solar power, and where it's being stopped.

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[–] snooggums@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'll take imperfect up/down vote usage that helps filter out the worst takes the majority of the time over letting horrible people appear to be on the same level as a reasonable take.

In general I try to go back on downvoted posts to see if I was unclear to improve it for next time. But I am guilty of relying on prior voters knowing about context and end up using group concensus to vote posts up or down when they are a bit unclear on intent, so can't really blame others that donthe same.

I try and not assume the worst in people, but over time it is getting really hard not to knowing how common it is for malicious actors to use subtle hints to sway opinion.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In general I try to go back on downvoted posts to see if I was unclear to improve it for next time. But I am guilty of relying on prior voters knowing about context and end up using group concensus to vote posts up or down when they are a bit unclear on intent, so can’t really blame others that donthe same.

I'm not sure why, but it was the beginning of your second paragraph where my urge to reflexively downvote you (after having been primed by seeing the existing score) was strongest. It might be because I skimmed over the "that can be addressed" part, or just that "disruption to the local area" is a relatively weak criticism and citing it as your primary example set off my reactionary spidey-sense a little.

Frankly, I'm not sure what you could've done differently. Maybe change that first sentence to something like "That said, the reasons locals oppose large scale projects aren't always entirely invalid?"

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago

This is great feedback!

I feel like trying to start positive feels like saying "I agree with everything, BUT..." so I tend to reinforce at the end to reinforce my overall point with context. Maybe that is just me and how many times I see people say they agree and then completely disagree for the rest of the post.

Thank you for taking the time!

[+] rdyoung@lemmy.world -6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

My issue with the downvotes is that it is regularly brigaded even if it's not an organized effort. Legit contributions get shouted down to being hidden while other non helpful or downright dangerous info is kept above it. On reddit with the smaller subs it doesn't matter especially when it's a post because it's still going to show in the sub. And while lemmy/fediverse is still small and growing, this will most definitely push plenty of people (likely me included) to not be as active because the majority of people don't seem to be capable of having a real conversation and instead just downvote and move on.

The one thing lemmy and the fediverse has going for it is not having karma attached to your account so you don't have people looking for upvotes for legitimacy and you don't have downvote troll farmers who see how far negative they can get.

I could also see keeping the up/down and total so long as it's hidden (but accessible to those that want to see it). I'd also be okay if downvoting enough of a specific accounts comments or posts automatically hid it from you (without blocking them completely).

And to make my point even clearer. Multiple someones have been going through my comment history and downvoting everything they can. The only ones they haven't are probably the ones that the post was deleted so while I can see my comment, I can't see any responses or the ones I responded to. And lemmy doesn't do that random bullshit that reddit does so I know they are real.

And even more on the nose here. I'm sure this addendum will sound like I am crying to a few or more of the drive by downvoters here and will bring in an onslaught of downvotes because as you already brought up, way too many people don't take the time to think about what they are reading and just react silently or by responding as if they are a 3rd grader bullying a toddler on the playground, likely because no one loves them enough (because they are hell to be around).

I'll get ahead of it. Bring on the downvotes mfers.

[–] Spazz@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 10 months ago

What a giant load of conspiracy nonsense