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Dont you think it is horrible how people put their political ideologies / viewpoints over human lives (lemmy.world)

submitted 8 months ago by prettydarknwild@lemmy.world to c/general@lemmy.world

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Something that i find prettyd disgusting these days is how certain people put their political ideologies / viewpoints over human lives, for example, celebrating the russian invasion of ukraine because it is "a blow against US / NATO imperialism" completely ignoring all the warcrimes, the deaths, and the suffering generated by that war, the same happening with the palestinian genocide because "Israel is the only working democracy on the middle east", acting like their ideoligies are going to bring back to life all the dead people somehow

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not once did I mention Christianity as being my basis for my stance on Abortion.
So what would make you happy then? If I stopped being Christian? Because it sounds like you want me to choose between being Christian and being pro violence against trans people, even though it's a bit of a stretch to say that the Bible saying God created people male and female is promoting violence against trans people.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not once did I mention Christianity as being my basis for my stance on Abortion.

Sure, you just can't come up with any other reasoning (we have a rather long conversation, so you had plenty of opportunities). But please enlighten me on how your stance on abortion, is not result of you moral views that stem from your believe in Christianity.

So what would make you happy then? If I stopped being Christian? Because it sounds like you want me to choose between being Christian and being pro violence against trans people, even though it’s a bit of a stretch to say that the Bible saying God created people male and female is promoting violence against trans people.

Not needing to have a conversation on abortion and human rights for trans people, would make me happier. But that is besides the point. I just pointed out, that it's somehow bizarre for me, that people who invalidate trans people whole existence are surprised by the violence trans people experience and are not able to see a connection.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

you just can't come up with any other reasoning

Because foetuses look like children and can feel pain, have a heartbeat, etc. If anything I'd be more pro life if I was atheist as at least I know that they go to heaven. But this isn't our abortion discussion.

I never invalidated transgender people's whole existence. But if you want me to not be vocal against killing people (as it seems you don't want me to by my first argument) then fine. I guess my Christian belief of "you shall not kill" is too radical and should be kept to myself.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago

Because foetuses look like children and can feel pain, have a heartbeat

But that is not your reasoning. Your state that after implantation abortion is murder. A blastocyst does not look like a child, does not feel pain and does not have a heart to begin with. So who are you kidding and why are you not trusting in your own faith?

I never invalidated transgender people’s whole existence.

Sure, I just assumed you follow the most common christian doctrine as defined by the bible and major Christians sects. Feel free to correct me at any time.

I never invalidated transgender people’s whole existence. But if you want me to not be vocal against killing people (as it seems you don’t want me to by my first argument) then fine. I guess my Christian belief of “you shall not kill” is too radical and should be kept to myself.

Christians love being victims. What about the other cheek my friend? Jesus was a cool dude, what the fuck happened to his followers? I personally blame Peter.