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‘My ultimate and absolute revenge’: Trump gives chilling CPAC speech on presidential agenda
(www.theguardian.com)
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Sounds like you think Biden can win the 2024 general election without our votes then. Good luck.
Actually it's you who doesn't matter. You'll vote for Biden regardless of what he does. I will only vote for Biden again if he cuts off arms for Israel and promises to veto any attempts to block the rail strike in his next term.
I'm not going anywhere. I'll be repeating this over and over right up until election day. So if Biden loses and you all are like "oh my God this is awful how could this have been avoided" there's gonna be a pile of evidence showing how it could have been avoided and thousands of responses just like yours rejecting it.
You would rather lose to fascists than compromise with leftists or progressives.
The projection is strong in this one. You are literally saying you would rather have Trump win than compromise and vote for Biden.
I get it, Biden isn't the best choice. When the alternative is literal fascism the voters need to shut that down hard. Make the Republicans lose like they've never lost before to show it won't be tolerated. That will force them to run somewhat reasonable candidates in the future, which forces the Democrats to have to actually try.
A marginal Biden win doesn't teach Republicans anything and they keep running wannabe Dictators, letting the Democrats continue to not have to put any effort in other than saying "It's us or Dictators."
A Trump win means there won't be another election.
That's a matter of perspective. You want me to believe the only choice is between Biden and Trump. I'm telling you the only choice is between compromising with progressives and leftists or losing to fascists. You don't have to agree with me. But if you think I'm being sincere then you've got a decision to make.
So you're acknowledging moderates made a bad choice in the 2020 primaries? Which is especially selfish and foolish considering literal fascism is at stake? Where are your lectures for moderate voters? Have you lectured anyone who voted for Biden in the primaries?
Moderates continue to get a free pass to make selfish decisions in the primaries. Leftists and progressives compromised and showed up in the 2020 general election. Now it's time for the moderates and Biden to make some policy compromises.
Yup.
Yes.
Those were during the 2020 primaries.
Unfortunately that's the option we're stuck with now. I agree with not letting Dems have a free pass... unless the alternative is literal Fascism. When the Republicans are putting forward a candidate that won't dismantle democracy then go ahead and make your stand. Letting Fascists take over the government to stick it to the moderates is the definition of cutting off your nose to spite your face. "Women and minorities will die from lack of medical care, and I'll never be able to vote again. THAT will teach those moderates!"
I’m seriously second-hand embarrassed for you.
I’m sure it’ll have nothing to do with all the clueless jEnOciDe jOe bros that stayed home or voted 3rd party in protest.
As someone stated before, communists/socialists don’t compromise. They just make demands.
a vote for a so-called third party isn't a protest. it's a vote. a protest is a protest.
Okay buddy.
he won without my vote in 2020. Jill Stein says the greens could hit 5% this year.