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[–] ExLisper@linux.community -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're right, especially the Ukrainian children kidnapped and held in Russia.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I get what you're doing, trying to play around the wording.

Just cut it out, no one is apologizing for what the Russian military is doing.

That said, Russian children are not responsible for those atrocities, and 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Ukraine defending their country is obviously just. Ukraine hunting children with UXO is not. Luckily Ukrainian leadership knows this.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community -2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I get what you’re doing, trying to play around the wording.

No, I'm agreeing with you while taking the opportunity to remind everyone what absolute scum Russians are.

no one is apologizing for what the Russian military is doing.

Exactly. Someone should apologize.

And I also see what you're doing, putting all the blame on the military like Putin was not generally loved in Russia before the war. Russian are pissed only because now they also have to die. If Putin only murdered Ukrainians they would still happily support him and his war.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If he was actually generally loved in Russia why were the last few elections so obviously tampered with?

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because he needs to pretend support for him is absolute while in reality only vast majority supports him. Because he cannot allow any opposition to grow in Russia in case he makes a mistake, like he did with Ukraine. Because if there's any sign of weakness even his allies will turn against him in a heartbeat.

He's tampering with elections to move it from 70-80% to 100%, not to move it from 10% to 100%. It's lower since the war didn't go as planned but most Russians supported Putin and his war.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah... He got 77% of the vote even after ballot stuffing and barring his real opposition from running. So your math doesn't align with reality though.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're right, I was wrong by 20%. His support is around 50% and he's pushing it to 70%. Does this mean he's not supported by general public? 40-50% is as much as any government gets really.

[–] dvoraqs@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Only 50% after repeatedly killing opposition candidates?

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean? You think it should be lower or higher because of the killings?

[–] dvoraqs@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Probably should be higher since there is less competition and an implication that you're not allowed to oppose Vlad.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 1 points 8 months ago

But some people will be a bit turned off by murder so it probably evens out.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Lol dude get a grip.

You literally played with the wording of the second statement of mine that you quoted.

Russian children are not scum.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community -3 points 9 months ago

I think you don't know what playing with the wording means.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You're playing whataboutism. It works in that direction too.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 1 points 9 months ago

WTF? Whataboutism would be if you said "Russians killed Ukrainian children" and I replied with "But what about Russian children!". I said "yes, children are innocent, ESPECIALLY Ukrainian children". I'm playing especialism you dufus.