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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

No serious historian thinks he wasn’t real.

Do serious historians live in Scotland with True Scotsmen?

None of these things are particularly far out there claims. There are many apocalyptic preachers today, no today we don’t kill them, but their followers sure also often claim they’ve seen some crazy things.

Name a cult whose founder only preached for 6 months and the cult survived. Name one. You can't. Because it never happens making your model of the events the ultimate black swan event in history. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago

I find when people identify someone else's usage of the "No True Scotsman" fallacy to be disingenuous, as if it's impossible to make objective statements ever. No true historian promotes knowledge which hasn't been proven. There is no evidence that a man named Jesus the Christ of Nazareth who could perform miracles and spoke to Pilate and was known throughout the kingdom as a troublemaker ever existed. There was a Yeshua Ben Hur who historically could be an avatar people can associate these fantastical tales with, but that would obviously not be real history.

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Look no serious historian who studies that period of history believes this. You can think whatever you want and spew dumb rhetoric. But you're incorrect.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Do serious historians live in Scotland with True Scotsmen?

Of course if I list off historians who do you then say "they aren't serious". We have moved from the argument from authority logical fallacy to the True Scotsmen fallacy.

Why don't you just produce your evidence?