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Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) went after former President Trump for his legal woes in an interview on MSNBC Saturday.

“I’ll take the individual who’s 81 over the guy who has 91 felony counts,” Swalwell said, making a reference to President Biden’s age in an interview on MSNBC’s “The Katie Phang Show” on Saturday.

“It’s not about two individuals,” Swalwell continued, speaking about the 2024 election. “It’s about the idea of competence versus chaos, or even greater, freedom versus fascism. If we make it about those ideas, and what they mean in our daily lives, we’re gonna win.”

Swalwell’s comments come after Trump was ordered to pay almost $355 million in penalties in a civil fraud case and amid increased scrutiny faced by the president on his age and memory in the wake of a special counsel report on Biden’s handling of classified documents. The report noted that Biden had problems with memory and recall.

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[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Im just... So tired of this game. If we were even ever old enough to witness the zenith of the Democratic party, it is surely in its waning form.

“It’s not about two individuals,” Swalwell continued, “It’s about the idea of competence versus chaos, or even greater, freedom versus fascism. If we make it about those ideas, and what they mean in our daily lives, we’re gonna win.”

Don't they all just sound like ad execs? "Make it about X" and we "win"...

Or maybe they sound like your middle manager who brought all the team together for a pizza party on Friday afternoon? You know the speech I'm talking about, the one where "we gotta tighten our belts" and how "we're all in this together" because we're "lucky we even have jobs in this economy"?

They arent even doing the thing we're used to anymore, where they tell comforting lies about future policies they don't plan on implementing.

They don't even pretend to talk about policy. It is clear isn't even on their minds! Now it's all like, "this isn't the time to gripe, we're all in this together."

and

"You're lucky we even have a democracy"

So fucking tired...

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, they are kind of right at least in terms of this coming election. The best thing we can do is to try to get the fascists out, then come January 20th, 2025 at 12:01pm, take them all to task and demand that they make good on their promises. Protests, rallies...hell, riots even...just make them understand that they serve at our behest and make them earn their keep. But we have to get through November first.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Unfortunately, they are kind of right at least in terms of this coming election.

They told me that last time, and i don't feel like they held up their end of the bargain. I know, i know, republicans. But we just did this. We swallowed and voted joe hoping to move fems left, orbat least get rid of trump, and here he is again. I just don't see how my actions this time will have a different result than last time. In fact I have a sinking feeling in my gut that it won't

[–] Newguy@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Don't be discouraged. Trump and covid was unexpected to me. I see recovery happening since Biden took office. Not solving my problems personally, but overall the country is moving. Trump has a lot of people who think like him. And some think even worse. Those gains the country has made are in the right direction. Those positive changes may be stopped or reversed if people are divided over who to choose. Progress is important and there is a whole system of government involved, voting in primaries is important, also the local and state elections set the stage you live in. Those actions are important. Don't burn yourself out, it is stressful.

[–] hglman@lemmy.world -5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's a lot of saying nothing. The democratic party and Joe Biden are absolutely discouraging. Things have not improved. The us oil production is at an all time high and we are directly supporting genocide. Trump has not been put in jail and it seems like quite the coincidence that his trials will happen throughout the election cycle. Essentially as the DNC directly makes it campaign about stopping Trump.

Its not enough and the DNC is part of the issue.

[–] Newguy@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I wish the Democrat would flaunt his accomplishment more. Lower drug prices, unions being major, infrastructure. These gains are good. The oil thing will isn't something I control. He is an ex president and him in jail will occur. This is a new thing for America. Just compare day in and day out, before and after elections, which party is moving us forward. Which party isn't. Which party has a project 2025. There is a bigger picture, and this election in America will matter globally. Other countries have spoken about it. Again, vote locally. Books bans happen locally. It won't be the first mass murder of people in other countries we see, and it won't be the last. I can't offer you a kind world, but I can offer you kind words. Be best

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 2 points 9 months ago

The problem was the down-ticket candidates. There's only so much a president can do when the legislature is polluted with or outright deadlocked by a bunch of sycophantic fascist toadies. That's why I'm hoping that the RNC does blow its entire budget on Trump so that we can pack the House and Senate with candidates that aren't hell-bent on executing every whim of a bloated, washed up reality TV personality.

[–] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago

Trump makes the DNC a lot of money, why would they give that up? They're either too dumb to understand the danger or they've already got their foreign passports ready on their private jets. One side is useless and the other is stupid Hitler.

The US government has no future. Organize as though fascism is guaranteed, vote to delay it as long as possible so you have more time to organize.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

We get through November a lot easier if Democrats could vote for somebody else besides Biden. I'm pretty sure the Democratic party has more than just one person in it.