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Christians think gay people are trying to convert people to being gay because Christians try to convert people to being Christian. (lemmy.ca)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by someguy3@lemmy.ca to c/general@lemmy.world

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Christians literally go door to door: "Knock Knock Knock. Have you found Christianity? I've chosen a christian way of life and I think it's a great way of life. I think you should choose to be christian. I think you should raise your children to be christian. I think we should teach christianity in school. I think we should elect christian leaders. I think we should have a christian society."

So they think gay people go around going: "Knock Knock Knock. Have you found gayness? I've chosen a gay way of life and it's a great way of life. I think you should choose to be gay. I think you should raise your children to be gay. I think we should teach gayness in school. I think we should elect gay leaders. I think we should have a gay society."

Which is of course as ridiculous as thinking: "Knock Knock Knock. Have you found left-handedness? I've chosen a left-handed way of life and it's a great way of life. I think you should choose to be left-handed. I think you should raise your children to be left-handed. I think we should teach left-handedness in school. I think we should elect left-handed leaders. I think we should have a left-handed society."

(Now it's not just gay, it's trans too.)

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[–] sagrotan@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

One day, 2 Church persons tried to talk to me about Jesus-guy, I bet them in and talked about 2 hours about free choice, real science and evolution. Tried to "discuss" it like they do it, just don't let other arguments be valid and come back to the same shit again and again. I didn't let them go until they almost panicked. Never heard from them again. Btw they didn't touch their tea, hmm. I really tried to convert them to self-thinking, I still hope, something stays with them.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That doesn't work, unfortunately. What tends to work is epistemology, where you try to get at how they know what they "know", and the roots of their belief. It also helps if you really develop a rapport with someone, are genuinely empathetic, and aren't asking obviously leading questions; you want to help someone begin to question their own beliefs, rather than telling them to justify their beliefs to you, if that makes sense.

Really deconverting someone can take a long time.

Check out Anthony Magnabosco some time; he's got a YouTube channel dedicated to street epistemology.