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Principled Opposition (lemmy.ml)

submitted 7 months ago by yogthos@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml

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[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 months ago (4 children)

The wikileaks thing is highly suspect, though. Like, wikileaks intentionally disclosed a lot of publicly damaging dirt on Clinton and the Dems at a very sensitive time in the election while not releasing ANYTHING on the GOP, even though they supposedly had that information.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I mean Hilary had been personally, as Secretary of State, responsible for Julian's persecution for years and years, it's no surprise he would have had a grunge against her, with good reasons. It's also highly likely no one from the Dems side thought WikiLeaks was a good avenue for leaks because of it, and so no material was submitted. It's not really suspect, it's just logical.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How so? I'm sure Clinton was pissed off that he published leaked documents originating from her department, but prosecution is not the role of the Secretary of State in the US government. And besides that, Sweden issued an arrest warrant in November 2010 and she resigned in February 2013. That's what, two years?

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

https://www.npr.org/2010/11/29/131668950/white-house-aims-to-limit-wikileaks-damage

"Let's be clear. This disclosure is not just an attack on America -- it's an attack on the international community," Clinton said Monday at a State Department news conference. Such leaks, she said, "tear at the fabric" of responsible government.

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Clinton emphasized that she wanted to "make it clear to the American people and to our friends and partners that we are taking aggressive steps" to hold those who leaked the documents to account.

The cable leaks had everything to do with the State Department has it pertained mostly to foreign affairs, and American involvement and meddling in various countries.

The cable leak is what Julian is being prosecuted for right now, not the dropped charges from Sweden. We also now know for a fact that there was a secret indictment in the US the whole time.

[–] chauncey@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

lol this comment is a great example of a lib grasping for a weak explanation instead of criticizing Hillary Clinton.

[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Hillary Clinton is a corporate shill, but you have to be fucking born yesterday to think wikileaks doesn't play realpolitik or perform political favors.

[–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Would you evaluate the contents of the wikileaks leaks if they had released an equal amount of dirt on Trump?

[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

I dunno, I guess that depends. Do they actively and publicly fuel a conspiracy theory that Trump had someone murdered like they did with the Clintons and Seth Rich?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There is nothing suspect about wikileaks, blueAnon just needs to learn to take responsibility for their actions

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nothing suspect besides them turning into Putin's laundromat. Oh, and then there was the not so subtle pushing of conspiracy theories exploiting Seth Rich's death. Real class act there.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago

nah, the real class act is the shit that we now know about what US does around the world and domestically thanks to wikileaks