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(update - 15th Feb) KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) — The mass shooting that unfolded amid throngs of people at the Kansas City Chiefs’ Super Bowl celebration appeared to stem from a dispute between several people, authorities said Thursday.

Police Chief Stacey Graves said that the 22 people injured in the shooting ranged between the ages of 8 and 47 years old, half of whom were under the age of 16. A mother of two was also killed.

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[–] IvyRaven@midwest.social 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's my question too. The cops keep talking about how they had 800~ various law enforcement individuals on hand and it still happened. Guns are a blight. Like this was a huge day for KC and the weather is beautiful, but now it's just another shooting incident.

[–] Jean_Lurk_Picard@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I mean someone could just as easily have stabbed multiple people with a kitchen knife amidst the crowd and law enforcement would not have been able to stop it. I don't see how the blanket statement "guns are a blight" is valid. Before anyone gets up in arms (heh) I fully support stricter gun laws and better background checks.

[–] IvyRaven@midwest.social 2 points 7 months ago

Sure someone could bring in a knife and stab people. But the culture around guns (toxic masculinity, using violence as a means to win an argument, etc) are all problems. And at this point the guns are definitely the main problem. We can look at celebrations in other locales and the rates of violence are lower. And most other 'first world countries' have stricter rules/regulations on firearms. Trying to act like guns are part of the problem is just burying ones head in the sand. Sure other factors play into the violence, but when you can easily get a firearm and wish to hurt others it's a lot easier than pulling out a kitchen knife.

[–] forlionsforrest@mastodon.cloud 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@Jean_Lurk_Picard @IvyRaven Sarcasm? I’m not here for. Go to X with that.

[–] Jean_Lurk_Picard@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

It's not sarcasm it's common sense. Also this is the only form of social media I use. I was just curious about your blanket statement that "guns are a blight" because I strongly disagree. Most people that make comments like that either A. Never handled a gun in their life or B. Regurgitate whatever brainwashing they've heard at university or the internet

[–] paninid@mastodon.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@Jean_Lurk_Picard impressive use of only 4 posts in the Fediverse.

This will go well for you, I can tell.

[–] Jean_Lurk_Picard@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are you actually going to be informative and contribute to the conversation. Or just make hivemind unoriginal snarky comments?

[–] paninid@mastodon.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@Jean_Lurk_Picard

I’m #woke and have nipples, can you milk me, bro?

[–] Jean_Lurk_Picard@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Did I confuse your algorithm, Mr. RoBOTo?

[–] paninid@mastodon.world 1 points 6 months ago

@Jean_Lurk_Picard
Have you considered therapy, my brother in Christ?

[–] forlionsforrest@mastodon.cloud 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@Jean_Lurk_Picard @forlionsforrest Look at a country with less gun ownership. England for example. There have been several incidents involving knives and multiple wounded. But it does not compare to the quickness and number of injuries. “Guns are a blight” is valid because the number of guns in our community is the difference. Ignoring that is a problem. Having owned or not owned a gun does not qualify someone to have knowledge.

[–] Jean_Lurk_Picard@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Look at any states with more conceal carry and open gun laws. There is statistically less crime per capita. Owning or not owning a gun absolutely qualifies someone with more knowledge about gun ownership... That seems like common sense to me.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Data from the CDC for gun deaths that you rank per capita by state.

Seems like state with more open gun laws have more deaths via guns, funny that.

[–] Jean_Lurk_Picard@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I said crime rates not deaths for guns. Can you read? No shit more guns will have more gun deaths. Are you fucking retarded? That was rhetorical btw. Yes. Yes you are.

[–] forlionsforrest@mastodon.cloud 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@Jean_Lurk_Picard @Gormadt so high and mighty. Crime has many factors (social-economic, population density etc.). Still doesn’t change the magnitude of harm caused by the number of guns (e.g death and injury).

[–] Jean_Lurk_Picard@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You could say the same for cars. In fact by that logic cars are more dangerous. So let's get rid of all cars in this country. In fact cars "are a blight"!

[–] forlionsforrest@mastodon.cloud 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Jean_Lurk_Picard@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

See ya come back when you have facts and a logical argument