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In 2020, the United States experienced one of its most dangerous years in decades.

The number of murders across the country surged by nearly 30 percent between 2019 and 2020, according to FBI statistics. The overall violent crime rate, which includes murder, assault, robbery and rape, inched up around 5 percent in the same period.

But in 2023, crime in America looked very different.

"At some point in 2022 — at the end of 2022 or through 2023 — there was just a tipping point where violence started to fall and it just continued to fall," said Jeff Asher, a crime analyst and co-founder of AH Datalytics.

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There are some outliers to this trend — murder rates are up in Washington, D.C., Memphis and Seattle, for example — and some nonviolent crimes like car theft are up in certain cities. But the national trend on violence is clear.

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[–] Happytongue@lemm.ee -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It’s not a crime if it’s not reported right? If people don’t want the police, or if the police’s job has been hampered, defunded or the like, and the police in turn just don’t care, no it won’t be part of that statistic. But the reality remains, a crime is still a crime even if its status has been changed, it’s just not counted as one. Wrong is wrong. The is why there are those who do t believe claims like this. I’ve seen violence against people, destruction of property, theft and more all done out in the open, and nothing is done about it. To think crime is somehow not happening or “dropping fast” is an absolute and outright lie. It’s straight bullshit through and through. How anyone could believe that is ridiculous. There has been an uptick in violence at least here in California that has mostly gone unreported. Why that is, is a good question. Cartel involvement is a good starting point. You can choose not to believe this, but if you live here, you know - violence is not dropping at all, nor is any other crime.

[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you want to challenge actual data and claim it's not correct, you need data to show that. If you don't have data to challenge that claim but you're still suspicious, you can say we need more, better data and we should make efforts to gather it.

But simply asserting that the data is wrong with nothing to back you up but the hot air coming out of your mouth is crap and anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see that.

[–] Happytongue@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Anything can be claimed that is true. Rare indeed in these day are statistics about crime if there are less police to enforce laws - that doesn’t make sense to you? You believe people are just committing less crimes, less violent crimes? Yeah really? Sure of course more information is needed. Politics and information aren’t to be trusted 100% and are never to be trusted when they work off each other. You yourself are basing your headline on information from an article that quotes one person - a single individual where did you get any of your information from? Who knows. Where do I get mine from? Same place. I could easily quote many people that feel the same way, would that be helpful? No. Much of what I commented on are instances, situations, circumstances etc. that I have seen, read, heard over an all too long period of time. I live in So. California - San Bernardino actually - and I’ll tell you this, it is a city well versed in violent crime. I personally know police, judges even, well 1 judge. For anyone to claim violent crime is down is a flippin’ joke. A lie to influence people’s opinion. The cartel have an all too solid footing in the States. You can ignore that if you want - the truth is hard to bear. Now if you want to say a certain type of violent crime is dropping for example rape, child abductions or something similar, than make that argument. But titling your post with a generalization that is blatantly false and then defending it by saying I need data to back it up when you yourself ignored that very rule shows you have less than a genuine take on what crimes are happening. Who are you trying to convince?