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[–] WhyYesZoidberg@lemmy.world 59 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I suppose it’s the same everywhere.. but each time Sweden gets amnesia and votes in the right wing we get raped:

M: “Hey let’s give away XXX to the private sector and let them rape the country. It will generate prosperity for everyone!”

Swedish voter: “What a great idea, why haven’t we done this sooner?!”

[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Sweden has worse wealth inequality than the US.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I guess this is going to depend on how you measure, right? What's the methodology?

[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For extra context, we have very high income taxes but none or very low wealth taxes for things like inheritance or owning stocks. Making it cheap to be rich and expensive to work.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

Yep. The right really did manage to pull a fast one on Sweden.

[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Ah, yeah. Gotcha. That tracks, for sure.

[–] DrunkenPirate@feddit.de 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I‘m really surprised. I always thought that wealth in the Nordish countries are quite equally distributed. Don’t you have a very flat income difference? How it comes?

[–] general_kitten@sopuli.xyz 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think its because most of the flattening of the income mainly touches the 99% because the income taxation isn't that effective for owning people as they often get their money from owning stuff instead of earning a salary

[–] DrunkenPirate@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Ah okay. So, Sweden managed to iron the glassfloor to the top. It isn’t possible for standard and even top performers to get to the 1% as they will always rely income with high taxation for a living. With this perspective my country (Germany) seems to be hard but it might be possible.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We aren’t much better off over here, don’t fool yourself. Don’t make the mistake of buying into the same empty promises of "yes it sucks almost everyone is poor and virtually nobody makes it out, but if i do it right I will" - no you won’t.

Chances for literally winning the lottery are higher than being a hard, honest worker playing by the rules and making it big.

[–] DrunkenPirate@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I can’t underwrite your „almost everyone is poor“ I’ve been in countries where families live in houses out of cardbox. Kids with just one leg. Girls being sold. In Europe is nobody poor! If you write this, it’s a slap in the face of the poor in the south.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Textbook whataboutism.

I can’t change what other countries fail to provide for their people, nor is it my responsibility as a random citizen. And it certainly has zero bearing on my economic outlook in Germany, do you want to tell me I should shut up and take it because random third world country #637 has issues with rape and murder?

Bruh.

[–] DrunkenPirate@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

No, it’s about being honest and not shut out „almost everyone is poor“ in Germany. Wtf. Germany is one of the richest countries of the world

[–] ebikefolder@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just like it not your responsibility what your neighbour has, what your parents had, or what your children will have.

So, all that out of the way: what exactly is missing in your life - without looking around you. You talk about "making it big", in your other post. What's too small in your life? And how would something bigger make it better? A million in the bank? How would that make your life better? Would you eat more? Heat up your house to 69 °C just because you can? Buy a Bugatti? That will take you from point A to point B just like any other car, or a train.

You refuse to compare our insanely high standard of living to the rest of the world. Why do you seem to compare it to the situation of others in Germany? Why do you care?

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago

Are you trying to defend our insane Income and wealth disparity, low social mobility?

I am fairly well educated, but I will never be able to afford a house, or even a livable apartment, not to mention providing for a family. The only way that happens is if the economy collapses or systematic changes are enforced. Why should I not complain about that?

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 months ago

This is a measure of wealth not income. I’m guessing large land owners?

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Income is not wealth. You can't become wealthy on any income. That's the thing.

[–] makeasnek@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And a smaller GDP than Bitcoin's market cap (850 billion)