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    [–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

    Discord is a real-time communication system that also has a built-in history feature. This type of communication promotes conversational interactions, which are really hard to search for complete ideas about problems and their solutions, and those solutions are not indexed by internet search engines, which makes it extremely difficult for people to discover useful information on the platform even with the available history.

    The asynchronous nature of web based forums promotes communication in more complete ideas (though this is clearly not always how communication happens) and they are indexable by search engines.

    Just look at how people discover solutions in Reddit posts so frequently when searching Google, but nobody finds solutions in chat logs, even IRC which has been around for decades and is often archived in a search indexable site where chat logs are posted.

    Edit: I swear that wasn't written even a bit by AI.

    [–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

    Edit: I swear that wasn't written even a bit by AI.

    That's the beauty of it. Tomorrow, it will be.

    (When an AI copy/pastes your answer to someone asking about choosing the correct iphone power brick, or something.)

    [–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Maybe that's one thing people like about discord: AI can't index their chat logs... unless discord starts selling that data.

    [–] RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)
    [–] DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

    They're using AI to generate summaries of chat logs.

    I don't believe they've had an IPO yet, but it wouldn't surprise me if they start selling that data to hit profitability.

    [–] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 months ago

    "Starts" lol. They are way ahead of you, my friend.

    I recommend reading Discord's Terms of Use and Privacy Policy some time. It is... more eyebrow-raising than usual.

    [–] ccunning@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    You don’t really address why having a “conversational” option is bad. I understand the advantages of searchable history but that’s not necessarily the right option for every community. Diversity is good.

    [–] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    It's not bad to have the conversational option, but at a certain point in a project's life cycle it probably shouldn't be the only option.

    A complex project like a government would have a hard time throwing out all their knowledge infrastructure and relying purely on Discord.

    [–] ccunning@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    Sure, but every project doesn’t have to provide every option.

    Look at Reddit’s terrible conversational “solution”.

    Discord is the option.

    [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    No one wants their private/semi-private chats to be indexable or searchable. The whole POINT is to not have what you say broadcast to all and sundry.

    [–] glockenspiel@programming.dev 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    I hear what you're saying, but that is exactly why Discord is shit for official communities like in the meme. There's no reason why an open source project should rely on Discord for troubleshooting and feature requests and enthusiasm. Discord was meant for things like video games and friend chats, not instances where data discovery is paramount to growing the community.

    There is a reason thar Discord communities trend toward toxic, and it is the insular weirdness that the platform enables and reinforces. Forums make much more sense for projects. Discord ends up with a bunch of no lifers ruining the communities. Been through it far too often with things like genre appreciation groups to open source projects. Reminds me of being a kid and encountering the, frankly, losers chasing people out of IRC.