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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 56 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wow, he even managed to roll some sexism into that one

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

How is that sexist? I agree it sounds sexist, but is the content actually sexist?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

I mean, we've already got our pitchforks out, fuck it

OP is racist!!

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The decision to gender only the victim is questionable.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The argument doesn't sound as convincing this way:

A Smith and Wesson puts the daintiest of assailants on an equal field with the burliest of women.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

that is not a resonable test in this situation.

Dont use 'woman' as an adjective. No need. Just use dainty/frail vs. burly.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Okay, but they did. I see how it sounds sexist, but how is it actually sexist? Dainty women do exist, and are on average, more dainty than dainty men.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

IMO introducing gender only to use traditional sex sterotypes to frame the discussion is sexist.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well, using the stereotype is to reinforce their point. It's a argumentative tactic. Like if someone said "eating greasy McDonald's or whatever", they could have just said "eating unhealthy food" but using specific imagery that plays into stereotypes gives a more emotional reaction.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And the sterotype they are playing into is sexist.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Maybe, I'm not sure where I fall on that. I view it basically the same as like the "fat American" stereotype- so is that xenophobic? Actually I would say that is worse, because being dainty isn't necessarily a negative trait to many people.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hmm trying to shore up a losing argument with a flanking maneuver, using the same trite tactic, to nations instead of gender.

Going after redheads next?

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

It was an analogy? I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I wasn't saying its not xenophobic, I was asking if you thought it was, and saying if you think it is then I agree it is consistent for you to then say that OP's statement was sexist. Not every discussion is an argument, don't be so defensive.

[–] escaped_cruzader@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's not, @SpaceNoodle did a dumb take in an effort to pile on the guy

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Noticing that a bit in this thread