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[–] TeenieBopper@lemmy.world 45 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Stop confusing democrats/liberals with leftists.

Democrats will probably almost universally agree that he's been a good president. Tribalism is a hell of a drug.

It's the leftists that won't. And speaking as a leftist, he's done a lot better than I thought he was going to. He ended up pushing for more progressive ideas than I thought he would. Good for him. He's been stymied by the courts and his own party on some of them. And that why I, as a leftist, think the democratic party is still (less) trash. They had a majority for two years. Did some stuff. Could have done more. You can be all "but but Manchin/Sinema" all you want, but I'll bet all the money in my pocket against all the money in your pocket, than if Manchin and Sinema were to announce that yes, they'd vote to abolish the filibuster, there would be two other democratic senators who would come out and say no. And that's fine as it relates to their world view. They're liberals. They're not leftists.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Democrats will probably almost universally agree that he’s been a good president.

Looks like he's slid into around 60/40 approval within his own party. Indies have him 30 pts lower than that.

And speaking as a leftist, he’s done a lot better than I thought he was going to.

Okay, but what about if you're speaking as an unaligned voter in a swing state?

[–] TeenieBopper@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Then I'm saying "at least he's not openly fascist but the democratic party still fuckin sucks."

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I wish. But Democrats threw tens of millions of dollars to a "Pro-Trump" Dem Senate candidate in Tennessee. Mayor Adams, up in NYC, has echoed a host of the Trump "immigrant invasion" talking points, when confronted with bus-loads of women and children kidnapped and displaced by governors' Abbot and DeSantis.

Then you've got Sinema in Arizona and Manchin in West Virginia and even John Ossoff of Georgia demanding hundred of millions for bigger and more heavily armed police forces to clamp down on any kind of public dissent in their historically red states. Our AG is once again refusing to close the torture camp in Gitmo, while Anthony Blinken runs around the Middle East peddling advanced weapons systems to extremist governments in Saudi Arabia and Nigeria and India.

You can "Trump would be worse" all you like, but this shit is truly awful on a scale its hard to overstate.

[–] TeenieBopper@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure "but the democratic party still fuckin sucks" covers all that.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

How do you describe any of this as less than open fascism?

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Dude blocked the strike, fucked the BBB and is supporting genocide.

Fuck Joe Biden.

[–] TeenieBopper@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Eh, I'm of two minds about the strike. On the one hand, he got the rail workers their sick days after the fact. On the other, he really pissed me off and threw labor under the bus by making it illegal (again) for them to strike. You can't be a pro labor president and take away labors most powerful tool.

I don't know anything about the BBB.

100% with you on Gaza.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

the fact he made it illegal tells any leftist all we have to know

[–] HandBreadedTools@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Your patriarchal assumptions of "he" are very telling

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Is Biden not a "he"?

EDIT: Not trying to be a smartass I genuinely don't understand what they're trying to say here.

[–] HandBreadedTools@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The person I was replying to originally said:

the fact he made it illegal tells any leftist all he has to know

They edited it after I commented without saying anything.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

Ohhhhh ok. Appreciate the context thanks.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago

On the one hand, he got the rail workers their sick days after the fact.

They were fighting for 15 sick days. How many did each of the 12 unions get?

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Tell me about your leftist policy beliefs.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

And here comes "No TRUE leftist!"

The right has RINOs so I guess the left gets to have LINOS or something.