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[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

if they're not neutral, they're not journalists. A fascist journalist is just a fascist after all.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In an ideal world you'd be right

In reality that's not actually a requirement to be one

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fair point. It sucks, but it's true.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 months ago

Everybody has some sort of bias towards something. It’s ultimately just an opinion.

Journalistic integrity isn’t about being non-biased, it’s about being upfront about bias and ideally the journalist actively trying to counter their own bias within their work.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The vast majority of journalists work for some sort of publication or news agency, in which they're beholden to the company owners' agenda and have to report to an editorial board, which decides what can and can not be published in accordance with their views.

You're thinking of independent journalists, of which there are very few.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And even them have their own biases, no such thing as unbiased journalism.

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 points 10 months ago

True, but not for the reasons that most people think.

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ok, the fact that you honestly believe this is how legitimate newsrooms work is both deeply disheartening and an indication of how little the average person knows about the news business.

Editors decide what gets published, not the editorial board which is an entirely different and unrelated body that traditionally has zero contact with the content side of things. In the business we say that there is a "firewall" between the editorial board and actual news content. The NYT or WaPo would have mass resignations of their reporters if either of their editorial boards tried to influence content.

Ownership is a bit different and obviously --as we know from the Murdoch empire-- can influence content, but in traditional operations they've always been very hands-off. It's a fact, for example, that Jeff Bezos doesn't care what the WaPo publishes and has no interest in it beyond as a business concern.

Editors do have control over content, but overwhelmingly they are concerned with doing a good job and furthering their careers and professional reputations. You're completely misunderstanding the incentive structure in mainstream news media. Outside of the extremist advocacy journalism ecosystems --mostly but not only on the far right-- no one has any incentive to push an agenda and risk ruining their career by getting something important wrong.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 2 points 10 months ago

Ah yes, it's only the evil right wing news outlets that have issues with transparency and corruption, but don't worry, all the left wing ones are totally honest.

And all billionaires are evil exploiters... unless they own liberal newspapers, then they're totally ethical and there is no grounds for concern.