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Why Green Skyscrapers are a Terrible Idea – Adam Something (www.youtube.com)
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“Because green skyscrapers and high-rises are a bullshit non-solution to serious systemic problems.”

“But if you want greenery on a building nonetheless, do I have an idea for you – a portable, modular, scalable solution called ‘potted plants on your balcony’.”

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I insists these are great, and not a solution to anything (the green thing is just marketing). Basically a form of fasade, the look of things etc.

And regarding implementation, they are just dog shit bad bcs often neither contractors nor architects are incentivized to spend time & money on it (they get most of their moneys by selling, not maintaining).

But there are solutions that were properly implemented and work all over the world. Even as retrofits to old buildings. Or to cover up outside walls where there aren't any windows for various reasons.

And also, most (green or non-green) highrises have some leaks, it's basically just a big complicated block that is bound to have imperfections.

And also 2, big core systems implemented have to be maintained as designed. Just like sprinkler systems have to be inspected and tested by law. Eg if we stop maintaining our air ventilation system (with filtration, humidification, and some pre-heating/cooling) I bet we get bacteria and fungi (maybe invertebrates) pumped around the building.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I bet we get bacteria and fungi (maybe invertebrates) pumped around the building

Legionnaires’ disease

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Exactly.

And hospitals had to solve the problem which is a system many buildings nowadays use (a bit depending on local climate needs). We now have osmosis water filtration for the humidifier (like 10+ kW for colder winter months?), HEPA filters before and after, mechanical & screen filters for the inlets (for potential smog particles, pollen, paragliders, that soft or thing) and probably much more stuff (various sensors, noise traps, regulators, fans, ...). All components have their own maintenance needs.

But if we were to cheap out and not hire actual professionals that are good at their jobs ... believe it or not, we all turn into an army of legionnaires and storm the city. And since we are in Europe, I mean highly organized Roman legionnaires.