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That's the thing. You can't call yourself a liberal while supplying a literal genocide, preventing the free movement of people, or supporting unchecked corporate power.
These were all things that were considered outside even classical liberalism. Much less the alignment of modern liberal vs conservative liberal we've had in the US for two hundred years.
This is shaping up to be much more along the lines of Oligarchy vs Fascism. And you know what? They don't feel that different to the peasants.
By literal genocide I think you mean "cultural genocide" and I think it is fairly immoral and inaccurate to believe that Hamas is a fundamental aspect of the Palestinian culture.
If the IDF hadn't killed 27,000 civilians and reduced aid imports to a point the UN is ringing thr famine alarms then you'd have a point.
Unfortunately you're just trying to conflate Hamas and all Gazans
Just to be clear, you are accusing Israel specifically of war crimes other than genocide in this last response.
Do you know what genocide is or are you just repeating a word because other people are?
Nope. There's a ton of war crimes going on, but they all add up to genocide. You don't get to create a false either/or, and the definition of Genocide is set in international law. Not your head.
Well, no? Genocide isn't defined as something like, "5 or more war crimes put together equals genocide,"
So I agree with you that you can't just invent a definition to genocide which is why I find your comment so ironic and I highly suggest looking up the definitions used by the people who will be trying this case.
I didn't say any 5 war crimes. I said these war crimes. Again, you misrepresent reality to argue in bad faith.
Well 5 was an example? But clearly you think it is less.
How few war crimes does it take to equal a genocide in pretenland?
Do you? You haven't stated what you think they are. Luckily, we have South Africa's presentation that makes the case this is:
https://webtv.un.org/en/asset/k11/k11gf661b3
And we have the ICJ's Ruling that Israel is plausibly committing genocide:
https://webtv.un.org/en/asset/k1u/k1uwq4cxuv
Stop being such an obvious fucking sophist. Whoever is paying you isn't getting their money's worth.
" the Jews are comitting genocide and the liberal world order is helping them and anybody who questions me is on the payroll."
Just keep flooding my inbox with variation of this and eventually you might beat me into submission. Could it plausibly happen? Sure. I wouldn't expect it though
I'm not trying to beat you into submission.
I'm trying to make sure that when someone sees a comment of yours trying to deny genocide, that someone sees evidence immediately that you are factually wrong.
Of course, I know you're paying in bad faith, but here I just have you exactly what you asked for, and yet, you just move the topic of conversation. Good job, sophist.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize accusing people of being paid genocide deniers was the behavior of somebody not attempting to silence the opposition.
If you can't present your case without bad faith tactics, you clearly don't have a case or you morally are not the person to be presenting it.
I literally have with the links you requested, implying I was lying if I didn't.
You ignored that. Do you recognize now that the ICJ has ruled that Israel is plausibly committing genocide, or is the Hague and NPR antisemitic?
Plausible in the ICJ's context means reasonable to inquire into. Plausible in your case means certainly happening no inquiry required.
But your case so far stands solely on changing the term genocide to just mean war crimes and the term plausible to mean certainly.
I'm not sure that's the correct thing to do in the situation.
Tell that to the 10000, minimum, murdered children, you blood thirsty fuck.
I know that they are your last priority.
You've made it clear your first priority is defending the nation that murdered them that has a leader literally calling them Amaleks, a tribe that God ordered to be slain to the last women and child.
Go wash the blood off your sophistry somewhere else.
EDIT: Plausible means plausible. You're literally comparing anyone who uses the word Genocide to Hitler. That implies that someone making that comparison is doing something so implausible that the only explanation is antisemitism. Instead of, you know, believing their lying eyes.
You're a disgusting propagandist. And you're not very good at it, either.
So you are lying on behalf of the children?
Look, I think your heart is in the right place, but being an inept soldier in a propaganda war directed at western leftists.isn't actually accomplishing anything in this situation.
I'm sure it makes you feel amazing to be a part of though.
The only person lying here is you.
And also, you took the insults I had for you in my last message and changed the wording a bit. This isn't your homework, be more original.
" the Jews are comitting genocide and the liberal world order is helping them and anybody who questions me is on the payroll."
Just keep flooding my inbox with variation of this and eventually you might beat me into submission. Could it plausibly happen? Sure. I wouldn't expect it though.
I'm flooding your inbox with what you literally asked for.
Funny how you just keep posting your genocide denial.
I have 3 other people who have been behaving in the exact same way, replying to my comments from my comment feed and not from their own inboxes.
Is Gish galloping an agreed upon tactic or did you all naturally decide on your own to employ it?
I've never heard of gish.
Giving you the links you asked for when you bullied me by accusing my recognition of genocide as antisemitic is defending myself and pointing out your bad faith.