Update: I contacted with current big owners, other older friends and lastly from some friends from here. Mostly all of them living in US so they don’t want/can’t host it. So I’ll keep hosting without being on moderation side. @gavi@lemmynsfw.com will post about details I guess. @gavi@lemmynsfw.com is the new top admin.
As you know, it has been 2 weeks since I opened the instance and it has grown quite a lot. Likewise, the time I have to devote to this work has increased a lot.
I'm dealing with lemmynsfw more than my IRL job right now :D This is bothering me. Also, having an NSFW instance instead of a normal instance makes things much more difficult. If you remember; I had my biggest scale fuck up with the post "we allow loli content" :) This situation wore me out. Also a lot of problems are bothering me, both as a software and as a community.
That's why I'm thinking of transferring the instance and the domain to a person I trust. Who can maintain the deployments and also know this stuff. I will also roll over any donations made, excluding the current month's expenses.
I'm sorry if I've upset anyone. That's all from me.
And what hosting were you thinking about to keep everything up?
It would take me a bit to do more thorough research on what is currently being used, and the issues that people have run into there. But i would be looking at primarily AWS, or Azure. Are you guys self hosting or using a hosting provider already ? Also depending on the current network traffic expectations its possible it could be self hosted (although again this would highly depend on what the current situation is and is very unlikely)
I personally have experience mostly with selfhosting and AWS which is what I would probably use. From what yay currently said the server is now hosted thanks to Hetzner.
honestly i had never looked at Hetzner before, and wow looking through its pricing its quite attractive (expecially in regards to network traffic) theres a very good chance i would stick with hetzner.
On hetzer I have some doubts I was throwing an eye at https://www.hetzner.com/legal/terms-and-conditions and it seems that they do not allow the possession of pornographic material, although it seems that now yay do it without problems I wanted to avoid the risk and I advise you to do the same
Yaeh, we would definitly need to migrate then. just becouse they havnet enforced it yet doesnt mean they wont. We could also look at alibaba cloud, which is what reddit uses currently. although then we would have to deal with that whole mess
I'd never looked at it, but glancing at it, however, it seems that having a reasonable amount of storage (considering the material we would be dealing with, I assume we need a lot ) the cost goes up. At this point perhaps it is better to self-host everything, the only problem would be to be able to have enough bandwidth
if i were to self host it i have access to a 2.5 up and down link, and i already have experience setting up self hosted content This would limit scalability in the future ( although to what degree is questionable)
Yes, actually 2.5 is not much and even if it would be sufficient for the moment, perhaps not anymore in the future. If we go this route there would also be a fairly significant hardware investment to be made.
Given the extend of this project, I think it might worth coordinating together if possible so we can have more than one person who can tend to the backend and coordinate hosting. Might even be best to have people from different time zones just for increased response time. Just a thought!
Definitely. I think regardless of who the torch passes to, there will be a need to work with others to do this. there arent easy anwsers to many of these questions.
There is no way in hell a single person will be able to handle an instance of this size (and rapidly growing). Coordinating is a must if this instance (or any other like it should it die before everything gets set up properly) were to stay alive
That can be a good idea
I made a matrix group room to try and corral and at least attempt to figure this out together. Check DMs.
My bigger concern with self hosted solutions is that it gives us a single point of failure for things like natural disasters/power.
the 2.5 gigabit should be enough for now, I think hetzner caps out at 10 gig uplinks, and assuming they didnt upgrade from their standard dedicated machines, they would have a 2 gig uplink now
This is true, but honestly, I'm not familiar with the policies of various hosting sites regarding the provision of backups or fallback servers in different infrastructures, perhaps in a different location.
Self-hosting, in my opinion, could provide greater privacy and security to users rather than using external servers. However, it would also depend on the policies of the administrator and how website logs and data are stored.
There could be a few trusted folk out there turning their servers into S3 nodes (?) via minio or something like that, which Lemmy's pict-rs could use as storage. The main Lemmy backend process serves out the images anyway (I have no real idea why pict-rs is that separate tbh), so throwing a CDN in front of that (filtered to images and video) should be enough to get some reliability on serving images.
Of course this is only the technical stuff. The legal parts are a completely different issue altogether