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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I don't understand why you think only rednecks have firearms. The world has changed, a large majority of firearm owners are not rednecks. Trump helped that.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but I've met very few lefties who advertise it. Owning a gun isn't really a part of most people's personality if they aren't crazy people.

I like responsible gun ownership. You should be required to show competence with your firearm, both in usage an maintenance and storage, to own it though. You should have to go through a course (funded by taxes to ensure poorer people aren't left out) before your purchase, and probably prove you have a safe place to store it and knowledge on how and why to store it.

(Firearms are the most stolen item, and the idiots with unsecured firearms or in safes locked with "1776" have caused part of the illegal gun crises.)

[–] ____@infosec.pub 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Seems reasonable to me - I got my state’s id card for ownership of a firearm, and just haven’t felt compelled to take the 16 hour class for a carry permit.

TBH, I have some concerns about the intersection of fed law and legal marijuana states that I’d rather not risk being the test case for.

You bring up a very valid point about funding of the course and equity. On further reflection, anyone who wants to learn ought to have access, whether they want to own/carry, or not.

The more educated and responsible citizens, the fewer sanctimonious fools who think “good guys with guns” stand a chance of stopping a motivated shooter with an assault rifle.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 months ago

TBH, I have some concerns about the intersection of fed law and legal marijuana states that I’d rather not risk being the test case for.

IANAL, but I think the consensus is that the form asking about previous addiction or drug use is unconstitutional, but it hasn't really been tested. The issue is you need the resources and time to actually take it up to a high enough level to matter. Generally it's just not enforced. Either way, it's better to just not be in a position to worry about it if you don't feel the need.

You bring up a very valid point about funding of the course and equity.

If it's a constitutional right (which I don't think it is because the second amendment is talking about something else, but that doesn't matter) then everyone should have equal access. Any barriers should not be based on class, race, gender, or anything else unreasonable. I would even go so far as to argue there should be ways to help people pay for them if they can't afford their own. If owning a gun is good for the rich, it's good for the poor. All this would obviously need training and education first obviously, and then checks to ensure they aren't just taking advantage of it, like selling it. If poor people had equal access to firearms though, I'm sure conservatives would be a lot faster with regulation.