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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So you’re saying people critical to the Men’s Lib movement aren’t welcome in the Men’s Lib movement?

That tells me everything I need to know about it’s “intellectual methods”.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

I think you mean “critical of” and not “critical to.”

And while there is welcomed and active debate in the community on our approaches and domains of concern, people who are actively hostile and unwilling to engage in a well-intended discussion are not welcome, in the same way that homophobes aren’t welcome in the LGBT community and far-right types aren’t welcome in socialist communities. We don’t want racists in spaces for Black persons, and we don’t want to engage with transphobes in trans spaces.

In men’s lib, we study the semantics and semiotics of masculinity both in specific cultures and how the ideas developed over time. We study sex, sexuality, and gender. Most importantly, we try to understand these things as they impact the communities we live in. While most people would be happy to discuss any of those issues, someone coming in from a “feminism bad” perspective is not going to be interested in discussion. They have a lot of learning to do before they’re ready, and they’re usually more interested in arguing than learning.