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In-N-Out Burger says it will close its first location in its 75-year history due to a wave of car break-ins, property damage, theft and robberies affecting customers and employees alike at its only restaurant in Oakland, California.

The fast-food burger joint in a busy corridor near Oakland International Airport will close on March 24 because even though the company has taken “repeated steps to create safer conditions our Customers and Associates are regularly victimized,” Denny Warnick, In-N-Out’s chief operating officer, said in a statement Wednesday.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oaklander here. Crime might be down nationwide, but it is up a LOT here. It’s quite sad. Big franchises aside, a lot of small local businesses haven’t been able to withstand the crime wave. Lots of my favorite mom and pop places are closing up and saying that they just can’t deal with the cost and stress of continued robbery / burglary.

But as for this place, there are cameras and guards in that lot, as well as employees taking orders. People still smash and grab, even in broad daylight.

This part of town is really struggling, by the airport, and thieves know the rental cars are almost guaranteed to have luggage. No one that lives here is shocked by this news. This is not Walgreens locking up soap in a place with dropping crime. This area is legitimately struggling with some big problems.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 16 points 7 months ago

What is wrong with Oakland? Poverty. That's usually the number one factor for rising crime rates anywhere

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This seems pretty non scientific. Crime stats are hard. The only organization that even comes close is the FBI and only because states are required to submit certain reporting.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ok, here’s the FBI’s stats from 2019:

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-8/table-8-state-cuts/california.xls

Violent crime rate per population:

Los Angeles: 0.73% Oakland: 1.25%

So it’s close to twice the crime rate of Los Angeles.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

One year of crime stats doesn't measure change. Your argument is that the crime rate went up. You would need to provide numbers for at least ten years and ideally 20 or 30 to say anything about crime trends.

If you try and reply again be sure to include the metrics for which crimes went up, and which ones went down in the years you're concerned with. I think you'll find virtually everywhere in America is the same, and that violent crime has been on a consistent downward trend for the past thirty years and property and drug crimes have occasional spikes that track concurrently with significant economic disruptions.

Causes and solutions to criminal behavior are not a mystery. The only reason crime is still a significant problem in America is because on half of the voting public can't hold back their emotions and insist on using criminal justice to exact revenge, rather than rehabilitate and prevent.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I wasn’t arguing that crime is up in Oakland, that was the other guy. I’m just shocked at how bad Oakland is compared to the rest of California. California is a really nice place to live, so I’m surprised that one of our cities is that bad.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago