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[–] Fades@lemmy.world 251 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fucking disgusting, poor guy was a literal hero and was spit on for it

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

This is just life in the slave racket. Abuse victims are denigrated, subjugated, and treated as the real threat to their community and not the abuser. They are treated like that because the society NEEDS most of its people to be abused and to tolerate it so they can be exploited throughout their lives without challenging their exploiters, or even worse, tearing down the system that benefits the oppressors.

Abuse victims who actively rebel or who try to help other victims jeopardize the system's access to slaves, you see. So they have their spirits driven completely into the ground to stop others rising up against them.

Why do you think things like rape or domestic abuse are seldom punished? Or even murder to an extent? Especially since the government has had access to mass surveillance for over a decade and thus has the power to end such crimes completely?

The powers that be WANT this and NEED it for their system to survive.

That is the slave racket.

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 27 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This is just life in the slave racket. Abuse victims are denigrated, subjugated, and treated as the real threat to their community and not the abuser. They are treated like that because the society NEEDS most of its people to be abused and to tolerate it so they can be exploited throughout their lives without challenging their exploiters, or even worse, tearing down the system that benefits the oppressors.

This is absolutely true. It may ring strange to the ears of some people because we've had Me Too since some years ago, but what did usually happen to a woman abused by someone in a position of power 20 years ago? How often would they have gotten justice? The same happens today if you're victimized by a religious institution in a very religious community, by your boss in a workplace where everyone is scared of unionizing, or in a household in a community where most people would lean towards disbelieving you or ignoring the issue.

I'm going to go ahead and say that most people, when faced with very clear warning signs of someone else being abused, choose to do nothing about it because they're cowards. We absolutely need better systems to deal with these situations, but given that they do not exist yet, individual acts of bravery save people from getting their lives broken. Please think about this next time you think someone close to you may be suffering.

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Damn that devolved into conspiracy bullshit real quick. Shame.

[–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is it conspiracy bullshit that megacorps and billionaires directly benefit from, and spend millions on, sowing division among the people?

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's conspiracy bullshit to think that the government has nebulous access to all listening and recording devices, has an army of goons to review every second of every piece of footage, and when murders or rapes occur they actively ignore it because the division helps them profit.

It's conspiracy bullshit to say that the billionaires and corporations are coming together to crush the spirits of the working class to have subservient slaves and that their entire existence is dependant on this apparent cycle of slavery through breaking down the hopes and dreams of the working class.

And yes, it's conspiracy bullshit to think they're directly spending money on sowing division in people. The only corporations that benefit on division work as military contractors or reporters.

In reality, they just don't give a fuck about us. Politicians want to be re-elected with the least possible work done, corporations want to make the most money with the least possible cost, and billionaires want to keep as much money as they can until the heat death of the universe. Overwhelmingly, most aren't malicious, just apathetic and trying to ascribe malice to everything, to think everyone is in the shadows conspiring against you is what sane people call paranoia.

[–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's a complete misrepresentation of what the other commenter was saying.

It's conspiracy bullshit to think that the government has nebulous access to all listening and recording devices, has an army of goons to review every second of every piece of footage, and when murders or rapes occur they actively ignore it because the division helps them profit.

None of this was said or implied.

And yes, it's conspiracy bullshit to think they're directly spending money on sowing division in people.

Why? Isn't that the purpose of Rupert Murdoch's?

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world -5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"None of this was said or implied"

Really? Then why mention mass surveillance like it matters then? If they can't actually go through all the data it means fucking nothing.

Isn’t that the purpose of Rupert Murdoch’s?

Gee wizz what was one of the two industries I listed that actually do profit off of divi- OH YEAH The News!

I represented their arguments exactly as they were laid out and stipulated my position accurately. They're a conspiracy nutcase that thinks everyone in power is out to get them and the only people who actually benefit off spending money to divide people are the guys making guns and the guys recording it. Period.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Okay, let me spell this out like you are a four year old then:

The claim is that the government has the power to stop abuse en masse and improve life for everyone, but doesn't, because they benefit from it.

The NSA program (which has been well-known for over a decade) is an example of that.

I represented their arguments exactly as they were laid out and stipulated my position accurately.

LMFAO no you're not; you're going off on a completely different tangent about the system as a whole instead of addressing my main claim, specifically how domestic abuse is allowed in order to maintain it, and you're doing it because you perceive any negative talk against the system as an existential threat to it.

You only address a claim literally everyone else on Lemmy makes: that corporations actively exploit and abuse their workers, and you label it as conspiracy shit.

And you do it because I'm right and you know it, people are realizing it, and that inconveniences and threatens you.

You are exactly the kind of motherfucker who keeps the slave racket going. Because fuck them kids. Fuck them abuse victims. You ordered your Big Mac five minutes ago and you want it NOW

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

Me me need big food

[–] GhostFence@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Slave racket? That's a severe overexaggeration. Can we please not use such loaded and extremist words for the issue of male DV victims?

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It applies to all abuse victims, not just males

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

I legit can't tell if you're trolling. lol