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On Wednesday, Donald Trump made a pointed statement on Truth Social directed towards Nikki Haley's donors, writing, "Anybody that makes a 'contribution' to Birdbrain, from this moment forth, will be permanently barred from the MAGA camp," and less than 24-hours later, Haley flipped the attack into a campaign merchandise opportunity.

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[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes, there are a lot of moderate conservatives that also paid attention in history class and know exactly what a fascist takeover looks like.

Fascists, libertarians and religious true believers are not always fond of each other. Their party is a coalition party, a function of our two party system. We gain nothing from ignoring this.

Think about it. Does it help them in any way when they paint us out as all rabid communists trying to destroy America? Not really, it just keeps their base dumb.

Us painting them out as all happy fascists similarly does nothing helpful for us, it's just circlejerking.

Listen to some actual conservatives, so you know what the opposition is up to. It won't hurt you, you won't get converted or something, so long as you actually believe in progress. Progress is the unifying element that ties our coalition together, while resistance to change is what ties theirs. Chris Christie fucking hated Trump though. Liz Cheney wants him in prison, and led the Jan 6th committee thing.

It's important though. We need a firm grasp on reality, not our own fantasies and oversimplified dream worlds, if we are actually going to put fascism down where it belongs with the massive numbers it will require. We need to focus on the truth, if we want our progress to go in any kind of helpful and healthy direction. I can't understate how important this is.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

i use the term 'hold their nose' for this reason. i do not have as much hope in the critical-thinking arena of the general conservative population as you do. ...only by judging by their actual actions the last few cycles.