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A New York Times copyright lawsuit could kill OpenAI::A list of authors and entertainers are also suing the tech company for damages that could total in the billions.

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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 24 points 9 months ago (3 children)

If OpenAI owns a Copyright on the output of their LLMs, then I side with the NYT.

If the output is public domain--that is you or I could use it commercially without OpenAI's permission--then I side with OpenAI.

Sort of like how a spell checker works. The dictionary is Copyrighted, the spell check software is Copyrighted, but using it on your document doesn't grant the spell check vendor any Copyright over it.

I think this strikes a reasonable balance between creators' IP rights, AI companies' interest in expansion, and the public interest in having these tools at our disposal. So, in my scheme, either creators get a royalty, or the LLM company doesn't get to Copyright the outputs. I could even see different AI companies going down different paths and offering different kinds of service based on that distinction.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I want people to take my code if they share their changes (gpl). Taking and not giving back is just free labor.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I think it currently resides with the one doing the generation and not openAI itself. Officially it is a bit unclear.

Hopefully, all gens become copyleft just for the fact that ais tend to repeat themselves. Specific faces will pop up quite often in image gen for example.

[–] gram_cracker@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 9 months ago

If LLMs like ChatGPT are allowed to produce non-copyrighted work after being trained on copyrighted work, you can effectively use them to launder copyright, which would be equivalent to abolishing it at the limit.

A much more elegant and equitable solution would be to just abolish copyright outright. It's the natural direction of a country that chooses to invest in LLMs anyways.