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Regardless of if it's practical to live that way in daily life, the world seems pretty determined. Everything happens because a vast amount of interactions between infinite factors causes it to. You can't really say you choose between things as many influences have been taken in by you and many things have affected your psychological state. Has everything been practically decided by the big bang? Now, this is not to say we can know everything or predict the future, but we know what's likely. Socialism or extinction may be inevitable, but we don't know yet. Socialism can only happen if people keep fighting, regardless. People will be convinced or principled or not. Science seems to agree with this, and only few, like the wrong Sartre would propose we have ultimate free will. So are there any arguments against determinism? I know there is a saying that you're freer when you recognize how your freedom is restricted, and that recognition may make your actions better, but isn't there ultimately no freedom?

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[–] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Everything is divisible into infinitely smaller parts, so yeah there probably will always be more to know no matter how much you know.

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It starts to beg the question that if everything is computable with a big enough theortical computer pointed at a paradigm that exists, but is either found or not found given the unknown, doesnt that mean free will is moot?

Untill we find the unparadagimable matter its still up for debate.

[–] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I still don't see an argument for free will here. Either way it means its random or predictable, not free. The only way free will could exist is if there was some sort of spirit beyond matter.

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Im also actually still open to that idea that there is something beyond the veil, but resigned to the fact that it would be unknowable.

[–] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 8 months ago

I doubt it, but noone can know for certain.