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[–] echo64@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Ah, yes, doomerism, inspirational. I think MLK said it best "I have a dream, but it's hard, so let's all give up instead"

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Doomerism - I don't think that word means what you think it means (or you just don't understand what UBI could be the start of, don't know anything about MLK, probably all of the above).

Considering MLK's understanding and support of Marxist ideas, he'd probably be fighting for technological progress as long as it came along with UBI, since that's literally the basis of a better world for everyone, unlike systemic racism and capitalism he was fighting against, which really aren't comparable at all (sure, both could be used to fuck up the prospect and potential of technological progress and UBI, but that's the fault of systemic racism and capitalism, not technological progress and UBI).

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We’re moving towards a world where lots of us won’t have viable jobs in these fields. We’ll either find different jobs or need some form of UBI

this is the comment. it's pure 100% doomerism with a "we have to find other jobs" thrown in. this isn't, "we should do this if it comes with UBI".

also don't really appreciate the giant paragraph where you claim MLK is in favour of AI, or would be, that's just weird. don't do that, don't put words in the mouth of dead people. You can make arguments without that.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Lmfao, says the person who invoked MLK in the first place, and literally put words in his mouth (words only someone who knows nothing about him would try to relate to him in this context)... 😂😂😂

Thanks, I really needed a good laugh to start the day with, and apologies for challenging you with two whole sentences, I won't put you through such hell again..

Clown
🤣🤣🤣🤣

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

and literally put words in his mouth (words only someone who knows nothing about him would try to relate to him in this context)

you realize i was using those words as an example of something he didn't say right? Specifically, I was pointing out how his message was against defeatism and doomerism by showing how he didn't use those words.

do you not understand this concept? In addition, why are you like this?

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 2 points 11 months ago

Loads of people have reading comprehension issues. They literally have trouble comprehending anything beyond grade school level writing

[–] sour@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago
[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

You're right about marxists favoring tech progress, but they traditionally oppose a UBI. That's generally true of the traditional left, not just the fringes.

They represented (or wanted to) the working class; people who did not just work for a living but took pride in being a worker and contributing to society. They tend to believe in a right to make a meaningful contribution to society (aka work) but also in a duty.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 0 points 11 months ago

BTW do you know anyone who's hiring buggy whip makers?

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago

Optimism about the future of AI capabilities is not doomerism. It's going to expand humanity's capabilities, not limit or reduce them.