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"Communism is utopian" debunking tips (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by guerillamonsoon@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml

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Many anti-communists are under the impression that communism is utopian and divorced from reality. I.e. on that dumbass sub enoughcommiespam, they say that having robots do janitorial work is idealistic and that there needs to be a division of labor for society to function. How do yall respond to that?

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[–] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That's a tactic anticoms will often use. They'll try to bog you down in very specific whatif scenarios and then drive you to saying something that sounds like a utopia.

I find it helpful to point out how their whatif scenarios are not achievable under capitalism and hence not realistic or serious arguments even from their own point of view.

[–] TheConquestOfBed@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Exactly, you have to stay grounded in material reality. Capitalism has had 300 years to get its shit together. Why do our everyday lives suck? Show them drone flyover videos or walkthroughs of Chengdu. Tell them that Vietnam legalized social transition for transpeople and has a land grant program for indigenous people. A better world is already becoming possible right now without reaching for utopianism.