this post was submitted on 25 Jun 2023
50 points (100.0% liked)

Politics

10179 readers
118 users here now

In-depth political discussion from around the world; if it's a political happening, you can post it here.


Guidelines for submissions:

These guidelines will be enforced on a know-it-when-I-see-it basis.


Subcommunities on Beehaw:


This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

I've only lived in Germany for a year and a half so if some more experienced Germans could tell me what I'm missing and explain why things aren't so bad that would be nice, but it seems like this country is shifting in a negative direction politically from this polling data and it scares me.

If AfD ends up being the second biggest party in the Bundestag next federal election I'll be quite upset but that's how it goes I guess.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could also argue, though, that the genocidalism score should be dependant on the amount of potential victims.

Depending on the estimate, for example the California Genocide had a higher murder ratio.

I don't think it's fair to let genocidists "off the hook" just because they ran out of people to murder.

[–] iam8bitwolf@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree, I'm just not sure what this is responding to. I didn't intend, and I hope didn't imply, that this was at play here. The Holodomor isn't better than the Holocaust simply because one ended with fewer deaths, and I agree with what I think is undergirding your comment, that there's no real way to "rank" genocides, they're all bad.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that was basically my point.

I've had a few discussions that went like "Nazis where the pinnacle of evil due to the holocaust, which was the most evil thing that ever happened, thus nothing else is really evil".

And while I totally agree that Nazis/holocaust are really evil, there are a lot of other events and groups that are really evil, and I disagree with ranking genocides just by the size of the "genocidable" population.

I did put "letting off the hook" in quotation marks, because I didn't think you implied that anyone who murders people on a massive scale is ok, just because somebody else was worse. So no worries, you didn't imply that.

A genocide, by definition, is an event where as many people are murdered as possible. They are usually limited by the size of the victim population and by the resources the murderers have. Not by how evil the murderers are.