Meanwhile Israel is slaughtering tens of thousands civilians with Western blessing, support and weapons. And France is concerned of such a comment? Right.

[–] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works -4 points 10 months ago

I think France, a country with millions of people, is capable of multitasking.

[+] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works -13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

France is concerned of all comments about the war in Gaza. France is the European country with the largest Jewish and Muslim communities. It is trying to navigate this mess in order to keep civil peace in a very very tense context.

France is backing Israel because it is in dept with Jewish people over its collaboration during WW2 and the help it provided to the Nazis in the hunt of Jewish people.

France was attacked and is still threatened by Islamist terrorists (Charlie, Nice, Bataclan,...). Hamas is more or less aligned on IS when it comes to Western countries, that is why it is considered a terrorist organization.

But France is also in dept with Arabs and Muslims. It colonized North Africa for 130 years, led a bloody war in Algeria with lots of war crimes against civilians. It hosts millions of citizen of Arabic and Muslim ancestry and the government cannot pretend their opinionidoesn't matter (lots of people who are neither Arabs nor Muslim also want Israel to stop bombing Gaza). It has been funding schools and hospitals in Gaza, is dropping food and medicine by air for Gaza's population. It does not provide any military assistance toI Israel which is not a member of NATO.

So yes, France needs to regulate public speech to avoid civil unrest and violence at home, while working toward a lasting peace between Palestine and Israel.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean what you're saying is true in general, but backing Israel because they're "indebted" to Jews is very questionable logic, and I don't see how it applies to this case.

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works -1 points 10 months ago

Nothing logical in all of this. Same as killing each other over who's allowed to pray where in a 1 km2 area

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 10 months ago

As someone who live in France and is familiar with our local discount genocide Joe and his predesessor's shinanigans, I can guaranty you that everything you just said is bullshit.

It is trying to navigate this mess in order to keep civil peace in a very very tense context.

No it's not, it's trying to cover up it's fellow US vassals. Anyone who followed the unrest in France in the past few years knows full well that when French official says they want "civil peace" what they really mean is "the proletariat and minorities are crushed back in their place and the white bourgeoisie get what they want".

France is backing Israel because it is in dept with Jewish people over its collaboration during WW2 and the help it provided to the Nazis in the hunt of Jewish people.

I don't know what ghoul you heard this from but those are just excuses to whitewash the actions of the French state, I can promise you that none of the illegitimate American bootlicker freemarketeer in our government gives a shit about any of that. Also, sorry to break your "good guy bad guy" worldview but Izrael and the Zionists collaborated with the Nazis, evidences of that fact are easily found online. So that would be bullshit anyway.

Hamas is more or less aligned on IS when it comes to Western countries, that is why it is considered a terrorist organization.

I wonder why the peoples who say that there is a link between Hamas and ISIS never bring any evidence to support that claim🤔 . Could it be... That there isn't any!? No, that can't be...

But France is also in dept with Arabs and Muslims. It colonized North Africa for 130 years, led a bloody war in Algeria with lots of war crimes against civilians. It hosts millions of citizen of Arabic and Muslim ancestry and the government cannot pretend their opinionidoesn’t matter

Ha! So that's why they arbitrarily arrested an arab with no charge for speaking against Izrael's genocide of arabs, gottsha.

It has been funding schools and hospitals in Gaza, is dropping food and medicine by air for Gaza’s population. It does not provide any military assistance toI Israel which is not a member of NATO.

[citation needed] +

So yes, France needs to regulate public speech to avoid civil unrest and violence at home

No, they that's not why they are doing that. Again, anyone who know what has been going on in France in the last few years knows that the government don't care if there is civil unrest and violence, they do shit that cause civil unrest and violence all the time and respond to it with even more violence.

while working toward a lasting peace between Palestine and Israel.

[citation needed] +

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What the hell does "in dept" mean? First time I'm seeing this.

[–] krimson@feddit.nl 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In debt.

Meaning many countries (including mine) give Israel a free pass to commit genocide because of something that a completely different generation of people did many years ago.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Is this debt officially and legally recognised? Or is it some idealistic notion that liberals have concocted? Because France like all other colonial countries has not paid a dime in reparations. Moreover it continues to deny its former African colonies monetary sovereignty through the CFA. Mali Burkina Faso and Niger could only expel French troops after literal coups. Something tells me France does not give a shit about its debts.

[–] dmnknf@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, colonial debts in African countries mean nothing to them. They take their jewish seriously because they are white and the genocide happened in Europe.

Don't forget fascism is nothing more than colonialism done in europe. Every single European country did it, but when it was done to them, it became a real problem...

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago

In my opinion it's not the guilt of the Holocaust that is the primary motivator for the support for Israel. Rather it's about what role Israel plays in the preservation of western (mostly American) hegemony in the Middle East. It's currently a nexus for western aggression against so many countries that are not allied with them (Syria, Yemen, Lebanon, etc.). Not to say that French foreign policy is not racist.